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Re: mini starter [Re: stinger] #672577 04/19/10 06:53 AM 04/19/10 06:53 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa 5 540challenger master
540challenger master 5 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa	Quote: what I don't understand is all these people that say they have no problems with the headmen's and the few that do,what gives? Alot of headers even the same part number are not the same. Why no clue old jigs, lack of quality control

Re: mini starter [Re: 540challenger] #672578 04/19/10 06:59 AM 04/19/10 06:59 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 464 Detroit Michigan stinger mopar
stinger mopar Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 464 Detroit Michigan	looks like a 78030 but don't know for sure.elite's look the same to me.Sorry for the H/J. I'll smash some more as these are only for break in and driving the car to the body shop for paint,probably go with a set of Doug's later on. 5934347-DSCN1569.JPG (42 downloads)

Re: mini starter [Re: scratchnfotraction] #672579 04/19/10 07:25 AM 04/19/10 07:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,565 tennessee P pushbutton pro stock
pushbutton pro stock P Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,565 tennessee	The 78030's are the ones I had trouble with.440 4 speed in a 63 Plym Savoy. You can run the mini starter if you don't mind beating the crap out of the tube shown in the pics. It will still be very close to the headers. Large reg starter will work with the 78030's The mini sticks out father from the block.

Re: mini starter [Re: pushbutton] #672580 04/19/10 08:58 AM 04/19/10 08:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,012 Ontario,Canada 1967GTX440 OP super stock
1967GTX440 OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,012 Ontario,Canada	Thanks for all the info everyone.Not sure what to do now maybe just get my starter rebuilt.The car is a 67 GTX with headman headers has anyone put a mini starter on that combo.

Re: mini starter [Re: pushbutton] #672581 04/19/10 04:26 PM 04/19/10 04:26 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: The 78030's are the ones I had trouble with.440 4 speed in a 63 Plym Savoy. You can run the mini starter if you don't mind beating the crap out of the tube shown in the pics. It will still be very close to the headers. Large reg starter will work with the 78030's The mini sticks out father from the block. That's odd because I put a pair of 78030's in my '63 Dodge with a factory (truck) mini started and it clears fine! Did you have later K and engine mounts?!?

Re: mini starter #672582 04/19/10 04:31 PM 04/19/10 04:31 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,120 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,120 Valencia, España	some considerations to this... B or RB blocks ? remember the diff stroke height makes higher and wider location againts block or backwards, so then the starter I have not seen yet diff headers for B or RB block to save this POSIBILITY With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: mini starter [Re: NachoRT74] #672583 04/19/10 08:34 PM 04/19/10 08:34 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	B/RB use the same TC and bell on the tranz the wider part of a B/RB should be the heads not the tranz bell or starter location they use the same tranz and starter and TC well thats what I got from a 383 and a 440 in an A-body..wider at the VC not the block and tranz guess it depaends on who is bending pipes and who has been out at lunch and bending pipes at the header factory I have had the same part # and 2 diff header pipe shapes bends...one size to fit all kinda thing they did list them to fit 2x and 4x truck though they did not fit the 2x truck on the drive side

Re: mini starter [Re: scratchnfotraction] #672584 04/19/10 08:47 PM 04/19/10 08:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 464 Detroit Michigan stinger mopar
stinger mopar Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 464 Detroit Michigan	well I took the torch and ball peen to it again and installed it tonight and have a good quater inch between the pipe and starter.after installing it I wish I would have ping a dimp next to a few plugs.

Re: mini starter [Re: stinger] #672585 04/19/10 08:53 PM 04/19/10 08:53 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	mark it and bit the bullet,pull them off and clearance them now and be done you will thank yourself later they are not hot right now so get r done

Re: mini starter [Re: scratchnfotraction] #672586 04/19/10 09:33 PM 04/19/10 09:33 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 464 Detroit Michigan stinger mopar
stinger mopar Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 464 Detroit Michigan	yeah I know

Re: mini starter #672587 04/19/10 09:33 PM 04/19/10 09:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,565 tennessee P pushbutton pro stock
pushbutton pro stock P Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,565 tennessee	That's odd because I put a pair of 78030's in my '63 Dodge with a factory (truck) mini started and it clears fine! Did you have later K and engine mounts?!? K frame was from 64 fury, mtr mounts correct big block mounts.

Re: mini starter [Re: pushbutton] #672588 04/19/10 09:40 PM 04/19/10 09:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 464 Detroit Michigan stinger mopar
stinger mopar Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 464 Detroit Michigan	Quote: That's odd because I put a pair of 78030's in my '63 Dodge with a factory (truck) mini started and it clears fine! Did you have later K and engine mounts?!? K frame was from 64 fury, mtr mounts correct big block mounts. I don't see how the K frame or mounts would have anything to do with how far the Denso starter sticks out.

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