Re: Firm Feel or Manual steering
[Re: jcc]
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09/06/10 11:44 AM
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i put a manual box in my car, considerably more effort with the 16:1 flaming river box, but i doubt i ll regret that until im like really stinkin old. for now it works great. I dont miss throwin a p/s belt everynow and again at 6500rpm, less weight, one lesss thing to leak, car is now easier to work on. I've never looked back!
1973 challenger Dana. 4 speed. Low deck.
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Re: Firm Feel or Manual steering
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09/06/10 11:53 AM
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i put a manual box in my car, considerably more effort with the 16:1 flaming river box, but i doubt i ll regret that until im like really stinkin old. for now it works great. I dont miss throwin a p/s belt everynow and again at 6500rpm, less weight, one lesss thing to leak, car is now easier to work on. I've never looked back!
What size front tires do you have?
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Re: Firm Feel or Manual steering
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09/06/10 01:25 PM
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i put a manual box in my car, considerably more effort with the 16:1 flaming river box, but i doubt i ll regret that until im like really stinkin old. for now it works great. I dont miss throwin a p/s belt everynow and again at 6500rpm, less weight, one lesss thing to leak, car is now easier to work on. I've never looked back!
What size front tires do you have?
215/70/15.
The wider and more grippy the tire the harder it is to steer. 235/60 wide and lower profile 225 wide tires will be noticably harder to steer.
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Re: Firm Feel or Manual steering
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09/06/10 02:37 PM
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i put a manual box in my car, considerably more effort with the 16:1 flaming river box, but i doubt i ll regret that until im like really stinkin old. for now it works great. I dont miss throwin a p/s belt everynow and again at 6500rpm, less weight, one lesss thing to leak, car is now easier to work on. I've never looked back!
What size front tires do you have?
215/70/15.
The wider and more grippy the tire the harder it is to steer. 235/60 wide and lower profile 225 wide tires will be noticably harder to steer.
but honestly, the only time i notice "effort" in the wheel, is parking stall driving, as far as making corners, etc, there is no real effort there...plus you can really feeel where your tires are on the road.
1973 challenger Dana. 4 speed. Low deck.
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Re: Firm Feel or Manual steering
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09/06/10 04:47 PM
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Do you remember who the seller was and what did you have to pay for it?
As far a I know it was just someone selling a box they didn't want anymore. He also included the power to manual steering coupler. I won it for $225 and it only had a few miles on it. I thought it was a great deal in the end.
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Re: Firm Feel or Manual steering
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09/06/10 06:08 PM
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The ratio multipler box of 1.5 or 2.0 would in IMO make a power steering box WAY too fast,
I thought so too. But everyone that has driven that Hotchkis Emax Challenger loves it.
I suspect the ratio is likely speed dependant, ie slow speeds a slow ratio, med speeds a fast ratio, and ala superspeedway/nascar speeds, they go back to a slow ratio to likely make more precise steering corrections and prevent oversteering, is my guess.
No, those multipliers are just straight gear reduction boxes. Nothing fancy with variable ratios.
We obviously are on two different pages. Not sure how "variable" ratios got injected. However, it seems to me, that different ratios are favorable for different uses/speeds cars are driven, again slow ratio for superspeedways, fast for med speed track use, slow for around town street and parking. So you pick your poison, unless you can tell me about this variable ratio box for an old Mopar. Make sense?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Firm Feel or Manual steering
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09/06/10 09:53 PM
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We obviously are on two different pages. Not sure how "variable" ratios got injected. However, it seems to me, that different ratios are favorable for different uses/speeds cars are driven, again slow ratio for superspeedways, fast for med speed track use, slow for around town street and parking. So you pick your poison, unless you can tell me about this variable ratio box for an old Mopar. Make sense?
Ok, now I understand what you were saying.
I think the superspeedway and bonniville stuff will have a slower ratio. Even drag cars.
But if was power steering I don't see much of a downfall to quicker ratio for in the city driving.
I think a lot of new performance car have 12:1 or 10:1 steering ratios.
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