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Re: Who else is running a Powerglide in their Mopar ?
[Re: jamesc]
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yes you're right, we're all idiots what was i thinking...
torqueflite is the best transmission ever made, after all it's a chrysler product. why would anyone want a inexpensive, strong, lightweight, consistent transmission when they can have a torqueflite instead.
seems a lot of mopar racers (not test and tuners) are taking a liking to the glide
what kind of tool brags about axle ratio?
so complexity makes a transmission better?
906 heads, 727s and danas for everyone...no wonder we're left behind
You left out .509 cams 
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Re: Who else is running a Powerglide in their Mopar ?
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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[If i'm not mistaken you have a turbo car. I said blower.
Actually a turbo car loves the glide because it keeps the turbos loaded.
like i said, depends on the combo and goal.
I really can't understand what diffference it would make wether it's a turbo, supercharged or naturally aspirated; with a high stall converter your rpm only drops to the stall speed after the shift. I don't consider PG the best choice for everything and everybody, we chose it mainly for the price. Building a 727 or a 400 or anything else to accept considerable power is costly compared to a PG. And in our case, the relatively high 1. gear + only one shift helps the driving with little experience. I must say, that when we run the car first naturally aspirated with a street 528 wedge, it was extremely boring after running mid 9 second leaf spring TF cars. 1.60 60 ft , the rpm against the stall forever, then the rpm starts to raise, wiat till it climbs, then shift and start waiting for the traps. It run a best of 10.64 at 129 mph arrow straight and everything felt like it was slow motion.  But at the moment I'm happy with the choice.
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Re: Who else is running a Powerglide in their Mopar ?
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When I was running KOS my car picked up 1/4 mile ET switching to the glide. Now you know someone.
That said there is nothing wrong with a properly built 727. The problem I see when running high HP is the shallow torque converter dept. This is why companies like Pro-Trans use a GM style converter.
Never understood the powerglide is cheaper arguement either. If your car is less than 3,500 lbs and makes less than 800HP you should easily be able to run stock internals in a 727. The only issue is safety so spend $500 on a good front drum. For the last time a bolt in sprag is a repair sprag and has nothing to do with how strong your trannie will be. My NA engine will break aftermarket planetaries in the PG. It only makes 650 lbs of torque. So you need a bell and flywheel. $350 and then a minimum $700 planetary in the glide. A transbrake is cheaper for a glide about half. You get $250 back from what you spent on the planetary you did not need in the 727.
When you get into high HP the glide requires a more expensive planetary. About $1,300 so does the 727. A truck planet is $500 that will hold anything but is helicle step up to optional ratios and staight cuts and the price gets in the thousands. This is when the PG is the cheaper choice.
The average racer tran sbrake powerglide for a mopar $2,500; 727 is $2000
The ultimate high HP racer (well over 1,000 hp) PG $5000; 727 is $7,000.
How many guys on here are making well over 1,000HP? It's a fad all your buddies like powerglides so you get one too.
There are cars better suited for 727's and some are better with PG's. Then some guys like the 400 trannies with cheaper gear choices and more of them and you use the best parts with it the GM dept converters. I have seen these work well also. Just hate to hear someone knock a 727 when they know nothing about one or what it can handle.
My car ran 8.41 at 3200 lbs with a 727. Truck planetary and aftermarket drum. $1000 plus a $500 Transbrake and basic rebuild parts. It ran 9.0's with nothing but the drum. Big tires and big hook required the planet but that was after the street DANA 60 gears failed.
Running NA the powerglide is not my best choice I will say again I have two PG's for sale.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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Re: Who else is running a Powerglide in their Mopar ?
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Sorry Leon, but I would have to disagree this time.. That $2500.00 would include a high dollar converter with a Glide. I don't know where you buy your gear sets, but you can get them for less than $800.00 anywhere now to accept 1000hp+ http://www.racingjunk.com/category/1087/...F-THE-LINE.htmlAlso, a good built Glide with a stock gear set 1.76 will take close to 900hp for a good while.. I finally broke one after 2000 runs. I have about 5 cases and can build a really strong Glide for less than $1500 to withstand that 1000hp. BTW, I traded my super high $$$$$ Pro Trans TF back to Dave years ago for a Glide from Mikes Transmissions.. Won a couple of Wallys and never looked back.  Not baggin on Torqueflites here, just pointing out that Glide can be done much cheaper than you have stated. Also, if you are at the track and trash your glide, chances are VERY GOOD that someone has another that you could bolt right in and continue going rounds..  Try that with a 727..  Chris.. 
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Re: Who else is running a Powerglide in their Mopar ?
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If you glide guys only care about consistency, and not making the car quick, why not just build a /6 dart with a 904...
Come on... we're drag racers.
And to be honest, a lot of cars that run glides run superpro anyway, which allows delay boxes and air shifters. So hitting the shift RPM is kind of a moot point for most of those cars.
I'm not saying it doesn't have it's place, and there is NO QUESTION that they are cheaper, but it doesn't mean it's always the best choice.
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Re: Who else is running a Powerglide in their Mopar ?
[Re: jyrki]
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04/09/10 09:48 AM
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[If i'm not mistaken you have a turbo car. I said blower.
Actually a turbo car loves the glide because it keeps the turbos loaded.
like i said, depends on the combo and goal.
I really can't understand what diffference it would make wether it's a turbo, supercharged or naturally aspirated; with a high stall converter your rpm only drops to the stall speed after the shift. I don't consider PG the best choice for everything and everybody, we chose it mainly for the price. Building a 727 or a 400 or anything else to accept considerable power is costly compared to a PG. And in our case, the relatively high 1. gear + only one shift helps the driving with little experience. I must say, that when we run the car first naturally aspirated with a street 528 wedge, it was extremely boring after running mid 9 second leaf spring TF cars. 1.60 60 ft , the rpm against the stall forever, then the rpm starts to raise, wiat till it climbs, then shift and start waiting for the traps. It run a best of 10.64 at 129 mph arrow straight and everything felt like it was slow motion. But at the moment I'm happy with the choice.
You can't understand the difference because you are looking only at your turbo combo. I'm not going to go into all of the specifics but heres a short list.
I run a tighter conveter
I run a true 10.5 tire
i run a lot of rpm
My car is pullied right now for 23lbs at 8K (no intercooler either) but since its rpm related, and has a tighter conveter..... do you see it now?
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Re: Who else is running a Powerglide in their Mopar ?
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powerglide... ...that's good.
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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Re: Who else is running a Powerglide in their Mopar ?
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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04/09/10 09:04 PM
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Ok, great, now that thats out of the way,.. lets talk about those damn Z28 Camero hood scoops everyone's running...
Whats a camero???
I have a turbo 400 and a cowl hood. I was told you need to run both to be fast!
You probably heard that from a Chevy guy, didnt you!
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