Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pum
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Here's what I'm using on my max wedge car. I'm sure someone will have a million reasons why I shouldn't use this but at least for the time being it works, it's simple, it's quiet and it solves the dry carbs problem. Certainly no good for racing but if you want a 3/8" pump that doesn't require a regulator, this works. Mine is mounted on the frame rail just ahead of the mechanical pump. NAPA Part Number: BSHN69405 http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail....+50020+2020014#
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pum
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Here's what I'm using on my max wedge car. I'm sure someone will have a million reasons why I shouldn't use this but at least for the time being it works, it's simple, it's quiet and it solves the dry carbs problem. Certainly no good for racing but if you want a 3/8" pump that doesn't require a regulator, this works. Mine is mounted on the frame rail just ahead of the mechanical pump.
Got a part number or application? the Napa link doesn't take me to that pump?
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail....+50020+2020014#
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pum
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You should run one or the other. Not both. You're hard start isnt drainback, it's the fuel evaporating faster tahn any fuel used to. So your carb goes dry and you need to turn the engine to fill the carb again. The mechanical isnt real good at suction. So it wont pull well thru the electric. The electric wont pump thru the mechanical very well. So, I'd say you can know ahead you have to turn it over for 10 seconds, then pump the gass twice and fire it... Or, remove the pump and install the Holley pump with a proper relay and wiring, and the regulator the blue pump needs, and just running that. Also, if it's noise you might be concerned about (the comment about not running it all the time) I would say use the Carter electric that requires no regulator and is about 1/2 the noise. Why not both? I've been running two for a couple of years. No problems. X2...no issues
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pum
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Just thinking out loud, wouldn't the mech pump lever need to be in the right position for an elec to push fuel thru it with the eng off so the right valve is at least partly open? No elec exp but if I needed that system either for adequate WOT delivery and or priming the carb I'd get the lo po carter elec mentioned + a mechanical pump up front & if my psi was too high in everyday driving I'd T at the carb inlet & run that bypass to a holley blue reg in series in that line (cap one port) then run it back to the tank & use the reg to adj the return flow to adj the psi at the carb inlet
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pum
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I've never had a problem priming the carb through the mechanical pump. Maybe I was lucky.
I have the atomic efi on another car and that is exactly how you adjust the psi. Regulator is on the return side of the fuel system.
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pum
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Just thinking out loud, wouldn't the mech pump lever need to be in the right position for an elec to push fuel thru it with the eng off so the right valve is at least partly open? My GTX has been setup with a Carter electric in the back and a Carter mechanical race pump up front since the late 80's or early 90's. I tried running just an electric pump and burned them out from all the driving I did and got stranded once or twice. After popping big coin for Mallory's "latest and greatest" pumps and having the brushes fail I went to the dual pump system which has served me well for over 25 years now without fail. You can cruise at 65-70 without having to kick the rear pump on, watching the O2 gauge you can see when the bowls start to run out when running the speed higher. Usually passing at high speed ;-) Nice to get in the car, flip the switch to prime the carbs and then shut it back off and crank it right up. I suppose you could do a WOT switch but I never got around to it nor have I ever failed to turn on the pump before making a pass.
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pum
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11/01/15 02:56 PM
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didn't completely read al of the above so this may have been mentioned but I wouldn't do it. I have seen the electric unknowingly blast the diaphragm in the mechanical and fill the crankcase with gas. very poor lubrication caused engine failure.
Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks.
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pum
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didn't completely read al of the above so this may have been mentioned but I wouldn't do it. I have seen the electric unknowingly blast the diaphragm in the mechanical and fill the crankcase with gas. very poor lubrication caused engine failure.
1) I have seen mechanical pumps fail all the time back in the day without electrics. 2) Thats why I use a race pump, better diaphragm. 25 year track history with no failure.
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pump?
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Thats why I use a race pump, better diaphragm. You ain`t kidding. I opened a performance holley pump before and that diaphragm looked like it was made out tire rubber. Very thick and stiff.
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Re: Mount electric fuel pump inline with mechanical pump?
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good info that a race mech is a good idea with its superior diaphram (I'd of never thought of that unless it happened to me & yes that would be disastrous) & if I do that (elec+mech) I'll T at the carb inlet & run it to a holley blue reg & regulate the return flow to control the psi
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