Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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Looks like someone is going to feel power like they haven't felt before!
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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03/30/10 10:18 PM
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Myron, I sure wish I had more info on what cars end up going to what shows, but I'm usually not a part of those discussions. I don't usually know about any of that stuff until long after it happens...You've PMd me asking for info about show stuff so many times now, and I always feel bad because I never know anything...sorry about that....it's just the way things are right now. As for the Lily car, I believe it has been mothballed about 2 miles from my house in Auburn Hills. There it sits, far as I know. And you bet: I do feel very lucky to be involved with it! AFAIK the graphics wrap package is exclusive... We have not weighed it, however we've probably added about 100-150lbs to it with all the turbo stuff which would put it around 3250 dry. But then it's going to take a whole bunch of ice water to fill the intercooler, and we're looking at other liquid coolers, safety items need to be addressed, etc which will probably tack on a tad bit more weight. At that point, we'll probably be looking at ways to take the weight back off again without butchering it (we realize the historical significance of it...the only cutting has been for intercooler plumbing....easy to restore). Sorry I have to be a little bit mysterious re: the HP target and all the gory details....you never know, I might decide to write a book about this someday. I will say the turbo should be capable of 20lbs of boost, though. Nobody expects the 904 and the 8&3/4 to be able to handle that, the stock block is probably a bad idea so that has been changed, radial stocker slicks were never really made to do what we're doing, and so on...so there is alot of work left to do. It's being built mostly to push the G3 Hemi envelope as far as possible with one "power adder". Currently, alot of guys are boring stock blocks paper thin, sleeving all 8, boosting them AND spraying them until the sleeves let go in their 4300lb 4 door Chrysler product.... It's getting out of hand...there has to be a better way, so we are going to test a new engine block that MP has not released yet to see what it will take. More info on that tomorrow. Hope you guys enjoyed the pics, I'll post a few more soon. Good times ahead
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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03/30/10 11:12 PM
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Very cool project.... I was involved in projects sorta like your but not quite up to that par but fun none the less... the big thing with the projects I worked on we didnt have to hunt down the sponsors like your having to do... we could ask and magically parts would show up but like you most of the time was on my own time(after work but I had a good boss that would let me slide)..... looking forward to hear how this comes out
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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03/31/10 08:41 AM
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What an awesome project! Yes, definitely post more pics and information! So that's what happened to DP #001? And how about identifying all the members of the team in the group photo you posted?
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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03/31/10 06:00 PM
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Here it is hanging off the stand, with the drag pak oil pan and some very different looking plumbing showing in the front. I had to change the pan, pickup, and front cover because all our existing stuff was cut/welded on/modified already ..... It also had a strange crank position sensor I've never seen before, it almost looked homemade and was covered in epoxy, but I was told it might have been for a Viper (?). Not sure what was up with that. Again, this block isn't released to the public yet. Somebody has to test this stuff in the real world before it goes up for sale....might as well be us! The combo is 440CI, 392 cam, I can't remember the compression ratio, and I'm not supposed to tell anyone about the heads so I better not say anymore Sorry, I just turned a wrench to tell you the truth, and I didn't spec all the parts in it. Hopefully we will be able to keep the crankshaft inside it....This block has billet steel 6 bolt mains, and looks pretty darned tough, but nothing in there appears super thick or super heavy. It's nothing like the Megablocks, R3s, or World Blocks I'm used to seeing from being around MP for the last 5 years. Newer technology.....
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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03/31/10 06:06 PM
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The combo is 440CI, 392 cam, I can't remember the compression ratio, and I'm not supposed to tell anyone about the heads so I better not say anymore
Cool heads!
Will a spiffy new roll of the silver duct tape be included with purchase?!?
Seriously, cool build!
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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04/01/10 12:53 AM
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Thanks for all the info Zippy. It is really cool indeed to hear that there is a group of guys inside Mopar that are taking this so serious. Wish I could be part of it!!
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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04/01/10 09:59 AM
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Sweet!, That's the same block being shown at the NHRA events? I checked one out at Gator-Nat's. they were saying that it should hold 1000 hp. You'll soon find out! ( I just had to add my self to the conversation for historical purposes)
Only 1000HP?
Uh oh, nobody told us that
Oh well, it's too late to change it now...
Sorry about the top secret heads Mark, just trying to keep myself out of trouble. The nicest way I can put it is, the heads don't actually exist yet, but these ones do
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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04/01/10 10:20 AM
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Hope you've got some beefy pistons, good rods, and some killer wrist-pins in that thing...I know from experience...good rings also, no moly at that poer level...
To me looks more like 1500hp ability.
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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car
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04/01/10 11:50 AM
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we're committed to it...so Unfortunately I have no idea what was actually used in it, because all I did was swap some parts around on the outside. The actual build was left to a sponsor who swears up and down it can handle it...I'd feel better doing it myself but the thought was "OK, let's see if they're right". If it lets go, then I guess we will have to give all their parts back in 5 gallon buckets We will be running a diaper, hopefully won't need it.... The plan is to sneak up on the tuneup slowly while trying to keep an eye on it, and it'll see it's first testing locally long before it does anything at an actual "show". If I remember to bring my camera, maybe I can post some updates later.
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