413 motorhome engine ???"s
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03/26/10 06:12 AM
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Had the opportunity yesterday to buy a 413 engine out of a motorhome. It was complete with a holley carb (looked to be one with a governor). I passed on it. It had the industrial waterpump setup on it so I figured the heads, intake, carb, exhaust, were all basically useless. It had a small diameter balancer, didn't look to be externally balanced, but not the same diameter as a steel 440 crank would have had. Do you guys know if the block, crank and rods were useful in an automotive application? ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif) thanks Jess
Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
[Re: RC91]
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03/26/10 10:30 AM
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I have a 413 Motor home engine,and it says 265 horsepower right on the air cleaner lid.
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69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar
68 Charger 383
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
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03/26/10 12:31 PM
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Where's Doc fiberglass? I bet he knows.
You rang ? .. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh2.gif)
To the OP ... you passed on it ? .. how much were they asking for it? I have seen a JY asking as much as 1000$ ...and as little as 125$(with a trans) in a burned-out MH .... toasted because the Berry crab started leaking like a sieve ....and burned the front half of the MH almost to-the-ground !!!
IS this motor usable in a car .....as-is ? If you want a GRUNT motor and if you want to heavily modify the exh mans .. sure. But the entire combo is more suited to a motorhome/truck application.
Should you toss all those parts you mention? ... YEAH ... TOSS 'EM over here ! I am doing some serious R%D with this combo and am saving all these parts I can.
Are the parts that you mention worth saving? ... I say yes. Are they as good as a typical 440 HP combo ? ... probably not - as some would suggest.
But then did the smaller-bore Max-Wedge run pretty good ?
Yup ! .. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smoke.gif)
""""""""""Had the opportunity yesterday to buy a 413 engine out of a motorhome. It was complete with a holley carb (looked to be one with a governor). I passed on it. It had the industrial waterpump setup on it so I figured the heads, intake, carb, exhaust, were all basically useless. It had a small diameter balancer, didn't look to be externally balanced, but not the same diameter as a steel 440 crank would have had. Do you guys know if the block, crank and rods were useful in an automotive application? """""""""""
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
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03/26/10 12:55 PM
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The one I have is complete,carb to pan,with trans,and it runs. The first person to put $400.00 in my hand can take it.
70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi
70 Charger R/T convertible
70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack
69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar
68 Charger 383
68 Charger 318
71 Charger R/T
70 Challenger convertible
71 Challenger convertible
71 Cuda 340
09 Challenger R/T Classic
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
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03/26/10 03:03 PM
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The one I have is complete,carb to pan,with trans,and it runs. The first person to put $400.00 in my hand can take it.
In my experience .... your hand is going to be OUT THERE a long LONG time ! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eeek.gif)
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
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03/26/10 03:05 PM
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Dodge 1971/72 V8- 413-1 4 BBL 4.188 X 3.75 7.5 to 1 265 @ 4000 445 fp @ 2400 Sodium Ex. Valves
Dodge 1971/72 V8- 413-3 4 BBL 4.188 X 3.75 7.5 to 1 238 @ 3600 407 fp @ 2000 Sodium Ex. Valves
Dodge 1973 V8- 413-3 4 BBL 4.188 X 3.75 7.5 to 1 190 @ 3200 355 fp @ 2000 Sodium Ex. Valves
Dodge 1976 V8- 413-3 4 BBL 4.188.X 3.75 7.54 to 1 175 @ 3200 325 fp @ 2000
WHERE did you come up with these #'s ?
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
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09/13/10 11:44 AM
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I just picked one of these up, and I am wondering what can be used? I have a 2bbl 383 out of a 70 polara for parts, can I use the 413 intake on the 906 heads? This is a budget build for right now. I just want to know what to hang on to, and what to toss on the scrap trailer.
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
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09/13/10 01:20 PM
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I'm sorry, let me try this again. I want to take the oil pan, pickup tube, heads and water pump housing from the 383 and put it on the 413. Did I forget anything?
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
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09/13/10 01:41 PM
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I'm sorry, let me try this again. I want to take the oil pan, pickup tube, heads and water pump housing from the 383 and put it on the 413. Did I forget anything?
YES ... it will work .. but you can do better. Get a set of small chambered heads for more compression(the MH 413 is very weak in that area). And a set of regular 383 heads(906's?) will not help.
In this swap ... watch out for the top two ports of the water pump in the block. On the 413 - using those "goofy" heads ... these ports are more-than-likely plugged with sediment.
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Re: 413 motorhome engine ???"s
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09/13/10 01:43 PM
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much easier just to take a felt marker and write "413" on the 383's valvecovers... no?
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