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Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: smokkem] #649203 03/25/10 09:23 AM 03/25/10 09:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,111 NotRussia 2 2fast4yourBrain Whack top Dodger
2fast4yourBrain Whack top Dodger 2 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,111 NotRussia	Quote: here is my work in progress, its a 70 4.10 b body dana in a 71 cuda, trying to make a 71 super trac pac set up, does this look right? does it look like your 72 cuda set up? bolts to the frame and connects to the upper leaf spring bracket, please pardon the dust The B-body rear is narrower than the e-body. So...did you bend the rear bar to be narrower to get it to fit? 70 318 Chally vert FC7/XW (sold) 06 300c SRT8 04 2500 QCLB 4x4 HO 1971 BMW 2800CS 1955 Nomad 1970 280SL

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: screamindriver] #649204 03/25/10 09:45 AM 03/25/10 09:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 904 Berwyn, IL M Moparlar super stock
Moparlar super stock M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 904 Berwyn, IL	Quote: Here's a pic of the 71-72 B body rear bar axle plate.. That hole in the center looks way to big like someone cut it out. My plates have a small hole to go over thw bolt in the spring. Larry

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: Moparlar] #649205 03/25/10 10:04 AM 03/25/10 10:04 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 765 Shoreline, Washington 72roadrunnergtx super stock
72roadrunnergtx super stock Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 765 Shoreline, Washington	Quote: Quote: Here's a pic of the 71-72 B body rear bar axle plate.. That hole in the center looks way to big like someone cut it out. My plates have a small hole to go over thw bolt in the spring. Larry I agree, appears to be a modified 72' plate, possibly to fit the 73' and later spring isolator mount. 1972 Road Runner GTX 440 6bbl 5-speed [img]http://72rrgtx.com/carpics/bucket/DSC06730r-1.jpg[/img]

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: 72roadrunnergtx] #649206 03/25/10 11:16 AM 03/25/10 11:16 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ 6 69L78Nova Banned. Forever.
69L78Nova Banned. Forever. 6 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ	My 78 Fury has a factory rear sway bar. 1969 Nova 454/M21/3.31 Mild mid-11 second weekend cruiser 1994 F150 XLT Super Cab 2WD 5.0/4R70W/3.55 (Daily driver)

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #649207 03/25/10 04:43 PM 03/25/10 04:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 55 Oklahoma S smokkem member
smokkem member S Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 55 Oklahoma	I cut the spring perches off and rewelded them in the correct ebody location, I think I moved them outward 1" on each side

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: AndyF] #649208 03/25/10 05:53 PM 03/25/10 05:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,692 Seattle WA R RichV top fuel
RichV top fuel R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,692 Seattle WA	Andy, Leaf spring rear suspensions get a lot of anti-roll from the twisting of the leaf spring packs. If you want to increase the roll rate with the existing springs you can increase the leaf spring bushing stiffness. Alternately increasing spring rate will also increase roll rate.

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: smokkem] #649209 03/25/10 06:11 PM 03/25/10 06:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,111 NotRussia 2 2fast4yourBrain Whack top Dodger
2fast4yourBrain Whack top Dodger 2 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,111 NotRussia	Quote: I cut the spring perches off and rewelded them in the correct ebody location, I think I moved them outward 1" on each side Ahh...thought you might've moved the springs inboard w/a Dr. Diff kit or something.

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #649210 03/25/10 06:40 PM 03/25/10 06:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 579 Ft.Myers,Florida Hemiruss mopar
Hemiruss mopar Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 579 Ft.Myers,Florida	Does anyone have a kit to install a rear bar? and is there a great benifit/harm verse price ??? I was kicking around the idea of a rear sway to help with street handling not track...

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: Hemiruss] #649211 03/25/10 07:14 PM 03/25/10 07:14 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,168 Vancouver, WA MoparMarq super stock
MoparMarq super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,168 Vancouver, WA	Quote: Does anyone have a kit to install a rear bar? and is there a great benifit/harm verse price ??? I was kicking around the idea of a rear sway to help with street handling not track... As for first Q, Firm Feel has a nice rear bar kit that is frame-mounted vs. axle mounted so there's less unsprung weight. I know there's a kit for 3rd gen B-Body, not sure about '69 B-body though. Might not work with some aftermarket rear disc brake setups. www.firmfeel.com. As for 2nd Q, can't say... (Or '70, sorry...) Last edited by MoparMarq; 03/25/10 07:17 PM.

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: 72roadrunnergtx] #649212 03/25/10 07:45 PM 03/25/10 07:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,343 SE PA. Q QuickBpBp master
QuickBpBp master Q Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,343 SE PA.	Quote: Quote: Quote: '71 B-bodies have all the mounting holes predrilled for rear bars. I can't imagine that none came with one. Maybe just cop cars. I've seen plenty of them in '71 and I have 2 '72 with rear bars one is a 72 RR with Gtx package and another is a SSP 400 4spd. Both factory... Locating holes for the anchor bracket bolts are present on 71' b-body frame rails making retrofit of the 72' and later rear bars very easy. Likely, there are/have been many 71's running around with rear bars, fact remains for 71' the factory never offered a rear bar factory installed on the b-body, with the possible exception of a special order Police package. "72 RR with Gtx package"? There wasn't a "GTX" package or option offered in 72', any U or V coded 72' Road Runners were renamed "Road Runner GTX". Sorry for not writing the exact terminology for a 72 and writing "package"..But your wrong it was an engine option so your wrong too I guess cause with the "option" of picking a U or V code it was then a RRGTX...Some things that I have seen come with that "engine option" were torque boxes and a skidplate on the K-member... Last edited by QuickBpBp; 03/25/10 07:50 PM.

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: QuickBpBp] #649213 03/25/10 08:40 PM 03/25/10 08:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 982 mopar heaven R rustbucket super stock
rustbucket super stock R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 982 mopar heaven	I currently have a 69 Coronet I am parting out with a factory ordered rear sway bar kit. This car is loaded...... front sway bar and 440/hemi leaf springs and the kicker is it only has a 318!

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: IMGTX] #649214 03/29/10 05:59 PM 03/29/10 05:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,325 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,325 Oregon	Thanks guys, that is a big help. I'll flip thru the factory books that I have to see if I can home in on the exact info. But basically it looks like rear bars were fairly rare until the early 70's on B body cars and even later on the A body cars.

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: screamindriver] #649215 03/29/10 10:47 PM 03/29/10 10:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,140 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,140 Valencia, España	Quote: Here's a pic of the 71-72 B body rear bar axle plate.. IT WAS a 71/72 rear sway bar plate. They began its life like the ones 72roadrunnergtx attached and noticed right why the mod was made. I tried to modify to fit on an iso clamp assembly ( pic is mine ). I got those trusting on seller being the correct ones for my car ( without pics )... they weren't. Being outside USA and they didn't exist down here I tried to make them fit somehow. I enlarged the holes and welded shims to fill the step on iso clamps... here is another view showing the welding deal: 5895840-P10500941.JPG (191 downloads) With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: NachoRT74] #649216 03/29/10 10:51 PM 03/29/10 10:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,140 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,140 Valencia, España	they were to work PERFECT except for one detail: the area raising up to rod link provision was meeting with axle housing, making imposible to fit. That was what made to take the conclusion the axle pedestals are shorter on 73/74 than 71/72.... and even some ppl said I'm wrong about, geometry doesn't fail, and I'm still practically sure of that although never compaired axle pedestals side by side. If wasn't for that, they were to work! At the end had to buy another ones, this time the correct ones WITH PICS! With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: NachoRT74] #649217 03/29/10 11:12 PM 03/29/10 11:12 PM
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NV69B7RR master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada	I'd love to see some pics of that factory 69 bar. I have the Firm Feel bar on my 69 RR with a Dana 60 and Dr Diff rear discs, no clearance problems. 72 Demon 340 71 Duster 340 Resto https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: rustbucket] #649218 11/04/10 02:32 AM 11/04/10 02:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,325 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,325 Oregon	A '69 Coronet with a factory rear anti-sway bar? Maybe a cop car with an aftermarket setup on it??

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: generallee6901] #649219 11/04/10 09:33 AM 11/04/10 09:33 AM
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71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	Quote: I had a 72 roadrunner that had a rear bar. 72 Had the rear sway bars. I'm looking for both front and rear for my 71 RR

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: 71rm23] #649220 11/04/10 10:43 AM 11/04/10 10:43 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,392 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,392 Iowa	72-74 E-bodies got the rear bar with the 340 Rallye/Cuda package. 318 cars were not supposed to get the rear bar even if the Rallye/Cuda package was ordered. I don't know about 72 318 cars, but 73's got the bar no matter what engine the car came with...as long as the Rallye/Cuda package was ordered.

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: burdar] #649221 11/04/10 11:00 AM 11/04/10 11:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,037 Texas, Dallas G_T super stock
G_T super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,037 Texas, Dallas	I was under my 68 Imperial the other day - it has a Panhard bar in it I never knew mopar used panhard bars in cars... 1970 Charger - V10, 6spd, Alterkation, Street Lynx 4 Link, Moser Dana 60, Wilwood 14" disks, Forgeline 18" Wheels (Rear:335's), ISIS Multiplexing Wiring http://www.v10mopar.com 2012 Charger SRT8

Re: Factory rear sway bars? [Re: G_T] #649222 11/04/10 12:00 PM 11/04/10 12:00 PM
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NicksGarage master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,127 Ramona, CA	By the way, I was watching this vintage road test of a '71 Charger SE on YouTube and they mention that it has a rear sway bar. Can't see it in the video though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBSd2QvY7wQ

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