Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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my 60' time was 1.87 Thats about what i was doing going mid 13, maybe i did some spinning running on old slicks too might have to buy new ones. I did have 14 lbs in them same as the old 440, should I have gone with less?
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1986 Shelby GLHS
1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto
1996 Indy Pace Truck
1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/20/10 08:10 PM
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Today im going to see if all my hard work and money is going to payoff, I dropped a 500 stroker in my 68 Satellite and going racing tonight to see how it goes, with my old 440 it ran a best of 13.22 102mph, nothing has changed but the new motor, anyone care to guess what i'll run, old 440 about 380 horses, new 500 suppose to be around 550. kinda nervous and excited at the same time
At that mph, you may not be making 550 HP, as trap speed is the indicator of horse power. You still could break into the 11s, imho.
In my experience a 9" tire was not enough, i would try to get a 10" tire under there and, also, be sure your convertor is right for that combo.
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/20/10 08:44 PM
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2400 stall, I do have a 4500 stall but needs to be refreshed.
1970 AAR CUDA
1970 Super Bee 383 Auto
1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd
1968 Satellite 500 Stroker
1986 Shelby GLHS
1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto
1996 Indy Pace Truck
1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/20/10 09:06 PM
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2400 stall, I do have a 4500 stall but needs to be refreshed.
You will need to change a lot of things in the drive train and rear suspension if you start hitting the rear tires with that 500" spinning at 4,500 off the line.
What does your combo weigh?
Do you have the tranny, drivshaft and joints, and diff that can handle that torque with sticky tires? I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I've been there, done that. Your 111mph shows the potential, while the 12.5 and overheat is an indication of some of the difficulties that lie ahead.
Master, again and still
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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2400 stall, I do have a 4500 stall but needs to be refreshed.
I dont think that a ton more converter would be what you need its just that when you put alot more torque to converters sometimes they get real ineffecient and do weird things. You said it kinda hooked, did you look at what it flashed to on launch?? It could be slipping and leaving alot on the table
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/20/10 10:38 PM
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all my suspension is stock stuff, driveshaft,U joints, spring are from a wrecked out 69 GTX, pinion snubber etc.... Its a street car that I am gradually making more race. car weighs 3600 with me Dont really know what you mean by flash launch, not a experience racer
1970 AAR CUDA
1970 Super Bee 383 Auto
1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd
1968 Satellite 500 Stroker
1986 Shelby GLHS
1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto
1996 Indy Pace Truck
1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/21/10 01:08 PM
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Thanks for all the advice and info, if I break in the 11's I will post it. I have a list of things to do. Once all the snow melts away here in Dallas, isnt it suppose to be spring now?
1970 AAR CUDA
1970 Super Bee 383 Auto
1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd
1968 Satellite 500 Stroker
1986 Shelby GLHS
1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto
1996 Indy Pace Truck
1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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Did I miss it... .... what cam are you running? I would say once tuned and you get used to the car's new setup I am willing to bet you will drop below 12.00s....
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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509 lift 292 duration Mopar Performance cam in one of them crate motors
1970 AAR CUDA
1970 Super Bee 383 Auto
1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd
1968 Satellite 500 Stroker
1986 Shelby GLHS
1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto
1996 Indy Pace Truck
1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/21/10 05:56 PM
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all my suspension is stock stuff, driveshaft,U joints, spring are from a wrecked out 69 GTX, pinion snubber etc.... Its a street car that I am gradually making more race. car weighs 3600 with me Dont really know what you mean by flash launch, not a experience racer [/quote
If you bring the car up to a certain RPM say 1200 on the brake before you launch what does it rev to when you flat pedal it to take off? You said it was a 2400 stall is that what you rev it to against the brakes on launch?
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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Well your giving up at least .4 in the 60 foot at least and that is just there. any improvment in the 60 foot is usually X 2 in the quarter. so if you go 1.65 short times 1.87 - 1.65 = .22 X 2 = .44 1.65's would still be poor for your car by the way. so a 4000 stall, 38 deg total, bring up the shift points, work on rthe cooling a set of caltracs and mono springs good slicks and 11.5's with no problems Probably more as you work it all out1 http://www.calvertracing.com/get it from wes with hes 90/10 front shocks http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/catrbarsy1.html
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/22/10 10:42 AM
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dont waste any money on running high octane fuel, get somthing middle grade at the pump, your middle and high grades at the pump are usually a cleaner fuel than lowest grade. only diff. but for power, not a thing
Nick Bowman 1970 Plymouth Duster - "Footbrake" Red-or-Dead 2X Pittsburgh Raceway Park Points Champion
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/27/10 10:46 PM
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Went to Pinks All Out car ran much better, 12.06 112.00 Maybe 11's soons.
1970 AAR CUDA
1970 Super Bee 383 Auto
1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd
1968 Satellite 500 Stroker
1986 Shelby GLHS
1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto
1996 Indy Pace Truck
1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/27/10 11:18 PM
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Went to Pinks All Out car ran much better, 12.06 112.00 Maybe 11's soons.
Nice going. What was your 60 ? Ron
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Re: 1st Test and Tune for my 500 stroker
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03/27/10 11:24 PM
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60' was 1.715 Uncle Sam owes me some money and going to buy some new slicks. The ones I have are pretty much done with.
1970 AAR CUDA
1970 Super Bee 383 Auto
1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd
1968 Satellite 500 Stroker
1986 Shelby GLHS
1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto
1996 Indy Pace Truck
1998 Dakota R/T 408 Stroker
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