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Re: 440-6 Challenger with T/A hood. [Re: cataclysm80] #642671
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Didn't they install T/A hoods when they didn't have any shakers in stock?




Tim, there has been a story that T/A hoods were used when there was a factory shortage of Shaker hoods but that has since been proven to be a myth.

Joe




Thanks Joe, I hadn't heard that. Tim





Shaker hoods weren't replaced with T/A hoods in 1970. But...

If I recall correctly, someone had said they ordered a 71 car with the N94 T/A hood & received it with an N96 Shaker hood along with a letter of apology indicating a temporary lack of T/A hoods in 71.

I suspect that is where the shaker vs. T/A hood myth started.

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It's more likely that people didn't do any research to find out that the T/A hood was actually an option on non-T/As.

Re: 440-6 Challenger with T/A hood. [Re: KISSAlien] #642672
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Didn't they install T/A hoods when they didn't have any shakers in stock?




Tim, there has been a story that T/A hoods were used when there was a factory shortage of Shaker hoods but that has since been proven to be a myth.

Joe




Thanks Joe, I hadn't heard that. Tim





Shaker hoods weren't replaced with T/A hoods in 1970. But...

If I recall correctly, someone had said they ordered a 71 car with the N94 T/A hood & received it with an N96 Shaker hood along with a letter of apology indicating a temporary lack of T/A hoods in 71.

I suspect that is where the shaker vs. T/A hood myth started.

Tav




It's more likely that people didn't do any research to find out that the T/A hood was actually an option on non-T/As.




I first heard the "out-of-stock" Shaker story in a NHOA newsletter article in the 1980s...

Re: 440-6 Challenger with T/A hood. [Re: Stewpar] #642673
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"El Hemi" was restored by Resto Rick a member here. It was believed to also be the first N94 prototype hood made if my recolections are correct................




The pictures I have seen of EL HEMI,showed the car when it was picked up brand new,and the car came from the factory with a rallye hood,not a T/A hood.


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Re: 440-6 Challenger with T/A hood. [Re: chargervert] #642674
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Whether there were actually any 440-6 Challengers ordered with a TA hood may never proven, Chrysler
likely intended for it to happen.
This Fram scale size print of the TA aircleaner has in the bottom corner...

Vehicle Description E-body
340 6 440 CID
1970 1/2 & 1971 3 2 V

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Re: 440-6 Challenger with T/A hood. [Re: mccannix] #642675
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Whether there were actually any 440-6 Challengers ordered with a TA hood may never proven, Chrysler
likely intended for it to happen.
This Fram scale size print of the TA aircleaner has in the bottom corner...

Vehicle Description E-body
340 6 440 CID
1970 1/2 & 1971 3 2 V




I KNOW for sure it happened because I saw it with my own eyes in 1970 on the car in my above post on a yet undelivered new car.

The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: xs29j8] #642676
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The N94 Hemi challenger was owned by my father back in the 80's. The old picture is of the car I believe parked at Rio Dodge in Austin. Since youre on the topic of air cleaners...... Here is a story that I constantly blackmail my father with. Back after my father bought the car, he was in the process of restoring it back to its original condition. It had been a drag car out in west texas and had been repainted red with blue and white fishscales and ribbons with lots of metalflake and cracked clear coat on top (typical 70's paint job). The cars original engine had been sold only months after the car was new and replaced with a hotter race motor. By the time my father got the car it had no engine, the transmission was in the trunk, and it came with a ralleye hood and a T/A hood. After my father had the car repainted and began assembling it he had trouble finding the correct air cleaner to fit both the 426 Hemi and the T/A hood. He found a car magazine (purely out of luck) that had all the part numbers for the air cleaner assemblies that went on cars with the N94 hood option. He still had trouble finding the piece he needed, but he eventualy found an ad in Hemmings motor news. My father calls it "the most expensive air cleaner assembly ever". This is becuase he traded a lime green 1970 Shaker hood 4 spd Hemi 'Cuda (rolling body) for it. Yes, a 'Hemi Cuda for an air cleaner............

Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: markshemiworld] #642677
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Do you know the VIN? I would be curious to know if it is one of the two currrently known or a third one.

Re: 440-6 Challenger with T/A hood. [Re: xs29j8] #642678
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I saw this car in person. Julius does great work.


68 Roadrunner 383 4-speed
66 Charger tubbed,caged,4 link(my first car)
68 Barracuda 318 4-speed a/c
66 Satellite 426 Hemi
70 W100 short bed 340 T/A
Re: 440-6 Challenger with T/A hood. [Re: tubbed66charger] #642679
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Back in the mid eighties there was an original owner V code Challenger in Modesto area that had a T/A Hood, guy claimed he ordered it that way I thought he was full of crap TX9 4spd originally out of the Fremont area moved to Modesto around 82-83... If it where still around I'd love to get another look at it....

Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: markshemiworld] #642680
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The N94 Hemi challenger was owned by my father back in the 80's. The old picture is of the car I believe parked at Rio Dodge in Austin. Since youre on the topic of air cleaners...... Here is a story that I constantly blackmail my father with. Back after my father bought the car, he was in the process of restoring it back to its original condition. It had been a drag car out in west texas and had been repainted red with blue and white fishscales and ribbons with lots of metalflake and cracked clear coat on top (typical 70's paint job). The cars original engine had been sold only months after the car was new and replaced with a hotter race motor. By the time my father got the car it had no engine, the transmission was in the trunk, and it came with a ralleye hood and a T/A hood. After my father had the car repainted and began assembling it he had trouble finding the correct air cleaner to fit both the 426 Hemi and the T/A hood. He found a car magazine (purely out of luck) that had all the part numbers for the air cleaner assemblies that went on cars with the N94 hood option. He still had trouble finding the piece he needed, but he eventualy found an ad in Hemmings motor news. My father calls it "the most expensive air cleaner assembly ever". This is becuase he traded a lime green 1970 Shaker hood 4 spd Hemi 'Cuda (rolling body) for it. Yes, a 'Hemi Cuda for an air cleaner............




Hi Lee... Welcome to Moparts!

What you say is true... here is the rest of the story:

I found the Hemi `Cuda in the Houston area, but passed on it because I wanted a more complete car. I passed the info on to James J., who then bought it. Mark knew I regreted not getting the `Cuda, and called me a few years later to say he could trade James out of it if I still wanted the car... I DID!

The deal was set that I sent payment of $500 to Terry M. for the NOS aircleaner and lid which he shipped to your dad, who traded James out of the `Cuda and sent me the title paperwork... I picked the `Cuda up from James' dad's dealership on my next trip down to Texas.

The `Cuda was a rolling body, minus the Shaker hood... here are some pictures...

Allen V.

Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: xs29j8] #642681
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Here is a more recent picture...

BTW, the gentleman the aircleaner was purchased from is "mccannix", who posted in this thread a couple of times...

Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: xs29j8] #642682
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Funny just how things worked out for you with the Hemi T/A breather. Mccannix living half of North American away from Texas puts a for sale Ad in Hemmings Motor News. I believe he had just purchased the larger mass of Fram made parts for Chryslers. Can not remember just how many of those breathers he purchased with the load. I wonder if Fram made more than Ten of those breathers total. I would think there might of been 2 to 6 Challengers sold with T/A hoods with a hemi. and the rest of the breathers in there were ten might of been for over the counter sales or maybe for warrenty repacement.


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Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: Alaskan_TA] #642683
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Do you know the VIN? I would be curious to know if it is one of the two currrently known or a third one.




Email with VIN sent..

Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: xs29j8] #642684
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This thread brings back memories. I recall the deal with the HemiTA aircleaner. I never really did advertise that particular Hemi TA base in Hemmings but did advertise an NOS 3512058 A12 liftoff assembly along with a bunch of NOS shaker parts.
I received a call from a gentleman who had heard I had one of the Hemi TA bases.
I really didn't want to sell it because it was so unique.
But the gentleman assured me it was going on a factory Hemi TA hooded Challenger. He even gave me the history of the car. Since I knew it was going to a good home I caved and we made the deal. I could never remember who got it or what happened afterwards because this would have been in the mid 80's.
Now I know as they say "the rest of the story".
Here is an old picture of the NOS Hemi TA base in the background with some other cool NOS air cleaners. I liked the fact that that Hemi TA base had a really neat large yellow "Made in Canada" stamp unlike the other common stamp seen on the majority of the other air cleaners.

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Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: xs29j8] #642685
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That has to be the rarest air cleaner assembly ever produced by Chrysler during the musclecar era!


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Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: chargervert] #642686
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Moparts member JRepucci had a NOS HEMI/N94 baseplate, I wonder if it is the air cleaner that ended up on "El HEMI".
Mccannix, did you only have 1 HEMI/N94 air cleaner?

Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: 6bblgt] #642687
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Is this Paul's pure/stock Challenger R/T?

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Here is the red HEMI automatic w/4.10s N94 Challenger R/T.

Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: 6bblgt] #642689
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Here is my 383 Challenger R/T - auto with A/C & N94 hood, as it currently sits.

Re: The most expensive air cleaner ever!!! [Re: 6bblgt] #642690
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Dan, Yes its the air cleaner thats on the "el Hemi". I figured that car was worthy

I bought it from a friend of a friend in British Columbia for $300 in 1999 0r 2000 and it was in its original Fram box. I don't have any pictures of it right now as they are on a old hard drive.

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