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Re: full frame/rolling chassic for darts or cudas? [Re: Supercuda] #632911
03/18/10 11:51 PM
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A full frame setup is not "something better". It's a step back in technology and not one for the better.

But to answer your question, nobody sells what you are asking for, which is not to say someone did make one when faced with a rotted out factory setup.




I guess all those guys that built their drag cars really messed up doing a full tube frame in their cars! And yes, as you can see in this thread there are companies doing frames for the unibody mopars. Now, how can I make my old crew cab a unibody? hmmmmmmm.......

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Re: full frame/rolling chassic for darts or cudas? [Re: Mopargnome] #632912
03/19/10 03:06 AM
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Why would you even post that?
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Quote:

Quote:

A full frame setup is not "something better". It's a step back in technology and not one for the better.

But to answer your question, nobody sells what you are asking for, which is not to say someone did make one when faced with a rotted out factory setup.




I guess all those guys that built their drag cars really messed up doing a full tube frame in their cars! And yes, as you can see in this thread there are companies doing frames for the unibody mopars. Now, how can I make my old crew cab a unibody? hmmmmmmm.......






I hope you were joking when you made this comparison.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: full frame/rolling chassis for darts or cudas? [Re: dirt] #632913
03/19/10 03:44 AM
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GO FOR IT!!! I'm slightly biased though... A lot of companies building full frames for mopars these days. AND NOBODY, except the real little guys, are using Mustang II geometry. AME uses there own design as well C6 geometry. Schwartz and others are using their own. Here is a link to another company doing it, The Roadster Shop , and they build a REAL nice chassis. It is a lot of work and planning, and CAN be expensive if you are having someone else do the work. If that's the case I can see it getting to 50k, but if you are doing the work, just parts man.

I was going to do an AME chassis under my 69 Dart but when I started planning to adapt Viper suspension, it no longer made sense to pay for them to build it and me change it. So now I'm building the chassis myself and have recently found access to a Viper chassis plate that will allow me to accurately set-up the suspension pick-ups. The "Viper Tax" is what's going to hurt my costs, but I'll still be in for less than an AME chassis once it's finished. The amount of support and information you get from AME is second to none. Give them a call, or The Roadster Shop. Great products coming out of both those places. Biggest thing is to plan, plan, plan.

Here's the chassis I'm building. Still a couple things to work out but it's getting there.


Don't let the naysayers get to you. Make that Mopar turn...


Will Ellis 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger, 1/2 Dart, 1/2 Viper
Re: full frame/rolling chassic for darts or cudas? [Re: HealthServices] #632914
03/19/10 04:02 AM
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It all depends on the planned application for the car.

Chrysler went to unibody because it made it cheaper to build the car and for it's intended purpose it worked well.
The intended purpose was for basic transportation for the masses.

If it's the best and only way, then explain to me why the Viper has a full frame?

Why are all the cars considered Ultra High Performance (Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bugatti Veyron etc) something other than unibody if it was the best?

Is it cost effective to change one of our old Mopars to something else?
No.

It goes back to the question of what are you gonna do with the car.

If you're gonna road race it against a car that was designed for the road course twisties (like a Viper etc.) no matter how many basic suspension upgrades you do you're never gonna keep up withe the stock style suspension.
It's gonna take a real frame under it, but not one with as quoted "old technology".


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: full frame/rolling chassic for darts or cudas? [Re: HealthServices] #632915
03/19/10 12:23 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

A full frame setup is not "something better". It's a step back in technology and not one for the better.

But to answer your question, nobody sells what you are asking for, which is not to say someone did make one when faced with a rotted out factory setup.




I guess all those guys that built their drag cars really messed up doing a full tube frame in their cars! And yes, as you can see in this thread there are companies doing frames for the unibody mopars. Now, how can I make my old crew cab a unibody? hmmmmmmm.......






I hope you were joking when you made this comparison.




Yes I was joking. I was just poking fun at the attitudes of some of these people.

Re: full frame/rolling chassic for darts or cudas? [Re: Mopargnome] #632916
03/19/10 05:08 PM
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The level of ignorant posts on Moparts never ceases to amaze me.

But I guess that is merely a reflection of the knowlege of the posters.


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: full frame/rolling chassic for darts or cudas? [Re: Supercuda] #632917
03/19/10 05:25 PM
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The level of ignorant posts on Moparts never ceases to amaze me.

But I guess that is merely a reflection of the knowlege of the posters.



I was just thinking the exact same thing.

Re: full frame/rolling chassic for darts or cudas? [Re: RokketRide] #632918
03/19/10 05:34 PM
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Were you looking in the mirror?


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: full frame/rolling chassic for darts or cudas? [Re: Supercuda] #632919
03/19/10 05:47 PM
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