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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: Mike Miller] #626246
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the wagon is suing Cal Tracs.








why, because he lost?




Oooops..... lysdexia sitteng ni !!!





i flee your pina!


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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: maximum entropy] #626247
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I watched yah make a couple runs ..

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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: The Shocker] #626248
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My old Dart had slapper bars and I took them off because I was told they werent needed and the car lost in the 60'.....My Valiant has a set of those old shockmount built in bar deals like MAS used to sell on it now, It was like that when I bought it and I plan on leaving them

Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: SLOW67] #626249
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Car sounds tough!


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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: 340man4ever] #626250
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The $20 bars I bought at Carlisle also have the shock bolt in them, I had to longate the U bolt holes on the mounting plate to fit my trucks larger bolt pattern.


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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: 11secdart] #626251
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1.60 short times with a 8.0" tires and spinning?
Like someone stated, they were a crutch to help and problem else where. Springs, Shocks or whatever. I run a 9.0" tire with springs. I have no snubber or bars. I foot brake the car with a 727 and 60's are always one the money at any track. The best 60 foot is a 1.42
Now I would work on getting the car to hook with out the slapper bars. After the car is working "right" with out the bars, and see what happens then.

Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: cudasteve68] #626252
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1.60 short times with a 8.0" tires and spinning?
Like someone stated, they were a crutch to help and problem else where. Springs, Shocks or whatever. I run a 9.0" tire with springs. I have no snubber or bars. I foot brake the car with a 727 and 60's are always one the money at any track. The best 60 foot is a 1.42
Now I would work on getting the car to hook with out the slapper bars. After the car is working "right" with out the bars, and see what happens then.


Not sure if it was spinning before or not.I do know that it was rapping the springs badly .It dented both shocks where they hit the rearend housing .Big diff between a 727 first gear and a PG first gear .Gears multiply torque big time ,and also create better 60's in the process if it hooks up.Try to get a 1.42 60' with your motor with a PG and 4.10's on 8.5 slicks with 3500 launches (Traction bars or not ).Saying one motor/car gets these 60' times and this one doesnt without listing other details is kinda like people saying they are better at setting the car up because they beat a 440 big block with their 360 ,but they left out small details like :The 440 had 9 to 1 compression and stock cam in a 4,400 pound New Yorker and their 360 had 14 to 1 compression and a .600 lift solid roller cam and was in an altered.Small little details like that can have small little bearings on things .See what im getting at ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcsXMV3vfg My Dart ,and im just getting started...
Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: bigdad] #626253
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I watched yah make a couple runs ..


Thanks for posting the pic of my Dart .I stole it and used it for my avator on the other site we are on .I like the pic for sum reason .I also sent you a pm over there.I still have yet to meet you in person though ,even though i figured i would Saturday .Lots of people there at that race this year ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcsXMV3vfg My Dart ,and im just getting started...
Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: The Shocker] #626254
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I'm wanting to run slapper bars, now after seeing this thread, i'm going to, should be fine for what i'm doing. What Lakewood bars do i need for an A body??


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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: joedust451] #626255
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Another choice that can work very well for some combos is the old South Side Machine lift bars,Jegs has taken them over and sells them under the Jegs name. I purchsed a new set off Ebag a year ago for $22.00. Shocks are a KEY to making any suspension work well.

Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: joedust451] #626256
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I'm wanting to run slapper bars, now after seeing this thread, i'm going to, should be fine for what i'm doing. What Lakewood bars do i need for an A body??


The ones i got for cheap are real old .I have been told by a few that they are old Foxcraft Comp lift bars.I was told by the guy that i got them from , that they were purchased in 1970 for a GM by his father.The hole spread for the U bolts on the spring plates were the same as my Darts and had a plce for the shock bolt on both sides front and back.The only problem i had was that the plates hit the backing plates on the brakes slightly .I trimmed off about a 1/4 inch and the went on no problem .The snubbers i used are just Mopar front A arm bumpers (cost me like $6.00 at Oreillys).They are directly under the spring eyes in the second hole of the bars .I kept trimming the snubbers (only about 3/8 of an inch) till they were touching the spring with me in the car ,but not compressed.Seemed to work well .I also used a flat plate with 2 holes drilled in it to go between the spring and the bars at the rear clamp location behind the axle with a U bolt ,to make it fit snug .Mine are slightly nosed down on my car ,but get perfectly straight when i launch.It lifts the rear off the car as well as the front ...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcsXMV3vfg My Dart ,and im just getting started...
Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: goldmember] #626257
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I plan to run home made cal tracks, and factory /6 springs for my Super Stock Plymouth making near 900hp...
here is a pic of my homemade bottom leaf spring bracket, and homemade disc brake setup.


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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: Bob_Coomer] #626258
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I plan to run home made cal tracks, and factory /6 springs for my Super Stock Plymouth making near 900hp...
here is a pic of my homemade bottom leaf spring bracket, and homemade disc brake setup.



i'm hoping those "spacers" are for mock up only?


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Re: For all of you that think slapper bars dont work ... [Re: The Shocker] #626259
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I watched yah make a couple runs ..


Thanks for posting the pic of my Dart .I stole it and used it for my avator on the other site we are on .I like the pic for sum reason .I also sent you a pm over there.I still have yet to meet you in person though ,even though i figured i would Saturday .Lots of people there at that race this year ...




I was there when you were talking to 31mofo,came over to your trailer a couple times but you were never around

I drove my pickup out there

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