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Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #625454
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So...is this correct then? Are you SURE the inserts shouldn't be painted a Red/Orange?




Nice car Eric! Looks great!




Thanks JD! Factory X9, X9 with V21 and V7R. All numbers matching 4 speed 383 car, power steering, woodgrain wheel, rust free orig metal, orig window sticker, broadcast sheet and more! I started to think the Red hood inserts would look great with the Red pinstripe, Redline tires and Red drums if it was correct. I'll keep them Black like they are supposed to be! Thanks for all of the feedback!


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Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: Dougsmopars] #625455
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The screens were redish orange. the solid inserts were black. Didn't matter what color the car was or if it had hood stripes. My first Road Runner was a 69 i bought in 73. Copper bronze with black hood stripes. It was an air grabber car. Screens were redish orange. Non air grabber cars did not have screens they had a solid insert with ribs.They are all black. Yes the redish inserts do look better but are not correct on non air grabber cars.




I bought a new Q5 69 non airgrabber GTX and the metal ribs were black. I replaced them with dealer purchased screens to provide more fresh air under the hood and they were redish orange. The colour of the car was irrelevant.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: MuscleMopars] #625456
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So...is this correct then? Are you SURE the inserts shouldn't be painted a Red/Orange?




Nice car Eric! Looks great!




Thanks JD! Factory X9, X9 with V21 and V7R. All numbers matching 4 speed 383 car, power steering, woodgrain wheel, rust free orig metal, orig window sticker, broadcast sheet and more! I started to think the Red hood inserts would look great with the Red pinstripe, Redline tires and Red drums if it was correct. I'll keep them Black like they are supposed to be! Thanks for all of the feedback!




I think you had a good thought about the red inserts with the color combo. Here's a suggestion. Why not install red air grabber screens even though it's not an air grabber car? They would look great. You don't really have to worry about water getting in. That's what I did with my new Runner in 69 for 3 years and never had any "rain" problems and so did Moparcanuck with his Q5 Runner. Here's a picture of the one's I changed from black to red on the Hemi I used to have. They just look nice on the 69 hood!It's not like your car is going to sit outside in the weather and you have to worry about rain getting in the engine compartment. You can save the metal inserts. I used Weber Bar-B-Que grill paint from my local True Value hardware store and a satin clear coat and really liked the results. Your blackout treatment looks perfect! What paint was used?

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Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: moparcanuk] #625457
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Here is a shot of the original Plymouth promotional literature dated 8/68. 69 Runner with air grabber and V21 hood treatment. Redish-orange vent screens.

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1969 340 4 Speed Swinger R4,
black vinyl, white butt stripe, 3:91

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: 6T9Hemi] #625458
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Here is a shot of the original Plymouth promotional literature dated 8/68. 69 Runner with air grabber and V21 hood treatment. Redish-orange vent screens.



V21 with N96 means red screens. If you look at the A4 GTX on the page next to it, that hood looks like it has screens, not inserts, and they are black. Again, my Nov 68 production date Hemi came with no stripe treatment and black screens and the T3 scoops posted above are original...just saying that not all air grabber hoods had red screens.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #625459
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So...is this correct then? Are you SURE the inserts shouldn't be painted a Red/Orange?




Nice car Eric! Looks great!




Thanks JD! Factory X9, X9 with V21 and V7R. All numbers matching 4 speed 383 car, power steering, woodgrain wheel, rust free orig metal, orig window sticker, broadcast sheet and more! I started to think the Red hood inserts would look great with the Red pinstripe, Redline tires and Red drums if it was correct. I'll keep them Black like they are supposed to be! Thanks for all of the feedback!




I think you had a good thought about the red inserts with the color combo. Here's a suggestion. Why not install red air grabber screens even though it's not an air grabber car? They would look great. You don't really have to worry about water getting in. That's what I did with my new Runner in 69 for 3 years and never had any "rain" problems and so did Moparcanuck with his Q5 Runner. Here's a picture of the one's I changed from black to red on the Hemi I used to have. They just look nice on the 69 hood!It's not like your car is going to sit outside in the weather and you have to worry about rain getting in the engine compartment. You can save the metal inserts. I used Weber Bar-B-Que grill paint from my local True Value hardware store and a satin clear coat and really liked the results. Your blackout treatment looks perfect! What paint was used?




I am getting confused: All 69 Hemi RR's and GTX's came with "Air Grabber" so why would the solid black rib vents have been installed on the Hemi car "you use to have"?

I am old enough to have bought a new 69 RR in April of 1969. I must have looked at close to a thousand different RR's before ordering mine and I have never saw an "Air Grabber" equipped RR or GTX with anything but the red/orange screens.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #625460
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My 69 Y2 Hemi without the V21 black hood stripes had black screens, not solid inserts. It was a Nov 68 production date car. When I restored it, I painted the screens red because I liked the red better. All 1969 383, 440 and 426 air grabber Road Runner and GTX cars with the V21 black hood treatment had red screens but not all air grabber cars had red screens if they did not have the V21 hood treatment. Apparently the blue January production one above had the red screens. It seems that earlier production air grabber cars had black screens if no V21 hood treatment...

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: 474218] #625461
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I'm with you. I'm 53 and never ever saw an air grabber car with black screens no matter if it had hood stripes or not. Sounds to me like somebody bought that one new and painted them black back in 69. Or there was a few factory built with bad screens. Even all the sales lit i've seen shows the screens red on air grabber cars even with out hood stripes.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: Dougsmopars] #625462
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I'm a little older. You were probably in 5th grade when I bought a new 69 RR. I wish I could have afforded the N96 option back then. Anyhow, I think you will discover that screens on early built cars without hood stripe treatment were black. It's not that easy to take the air grabber off just to paint the screens! My Hemi car was an RM27J. It had never been repainted and needed a total resto. These screens came off a 383 parts car. I can assure you they are not repainted black. Never say never with these cars.

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Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #625463
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I would like to see another pic of the black air grabber screens. I would like to see the bottom hood insert (in picture) rotated 180 and a close up pic of the brackets held down by the screws, (the tall ones). Also the end brackets.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: Bull1tt] #625464
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Actually, that looks like the tall brackets showing, and I believe those screens were added to the inserts shown in the pic. All of the original hood inserts I have seen had different style brackets holding in the "L" channel and the screens in the insert. The screens and the "L" are a different height than the non-air block off plate. The air grabber brackets that held the screens in had a bend in the middle of the bracket. Back in the day, a lot of these screens replaced the block off plates just to help vent heat out from under the hood.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Orange? [Re: MuscleMopars] #625465
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A bit OT, were there 2 vendors for the screens? Most St Louis built cars seem the have a different screen than the ones used at Lynch Rd.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Orange? [Re: B5 Bee] #625466
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This is an interesting subject! The original owner of my car had Maaco shoot the hole car silver including the emblems and nothing was taken apart. Here is a series of pics of the tag hood and bottom of the screen. Also note the tune spec sticker which was also on the inner fender, like said above never say never.


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Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Orange? [Re: 69hemibeep] #625467
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Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Orange? [Re: 69hemibeep] #625468
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Those are the rails and brackets i've allways seen on the air grabber inserts.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #625469
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So...is this correct then? Are you SURE the inserts shouldn't be painted a Red/Orange?




Nice car Eric! Looks great!




Thanks JD! Factory X9, X9 with V21 and V7R. All numbers matching 4 speed 383 car, power steering, woodgrain wheel, rust free orig metal, orig window sticker, broadcast sheet and more! I started to think the Red hood inserts would look great with the Red pinstripe, Redline tires and Red drums if it was correct. I'll keep them Black like they are supposed to be! Thanks for all of the feedback!




I think you had a good thought about the red inserts with the color combo. Here's a suggestion. Why not install red air grabber screens even though it's not an air grabber car? They would look great. You don't really have to worry about water getting in. That's what I did with my new Runner in 69 for 3 years and never had any "rain" problems and so did Moparcanuck with his Q5 Runner. Here's a picture of the one's I changed from black to red on the Hemi I used to have. They just look nice on the 69 hood!It's not like your car is going to sit outside in the weather and you have to worry about rain getting in the engine compartment. You can save the metal inserts. I used Weber Bar-B-Que grill paint from my local True Value hardware store and a satin clear coat and really liked the results. Your blackout treatment looks perfect! What paint was used?




My blackout treatment was already done when I got the car. The picture does look good but in person I would say it is a little too smooth. Easier to clean though!


Thanks,
Eric
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Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: MuscleMopars] #625470
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I use the satin trim black from SEM.

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Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: Dougsmopars] #625471
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I use the satin trim black from SEM.





Hey thats my car! is that T3? I have a survivor and it has the red block outs, is that correct? it did not come with air grabber and is a St. Louie car.

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: WannaRunner] #625472
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No air grabber has black inserts. Color is spanish gold forget the code number. This one is an air grabber car

Re: 69 Road Runnr hood scoop top color? Black? Red? Ora [Re: Dougsmopars] #625473
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No air grabber has black inserts. Color is spanish gold forget the code number. This one is an air grabber car




Y4 is the code for Spanish Gold Metallic. Which car are we saying is Y4? That's some awful bad lighting if the photo three posts up is supposed to be Y4, don't ask me how I know...


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