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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: TMP66] #619817
02/21/10 07:37 PM
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The report post I made was direct information from the scene. It happened within two pits of the friend/racer that I talked to. And was informed by too many at the scene or I would not have posted what I did. Local news just stated that the person in question was a member of one of the Nostalgia crew.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: mopacltd] #619818
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Sad sad news, I feel sorry for all involved.


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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: mopacltd] #619819
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From Competition Plus

http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php/drag-racing/news/13401-woman-injured-on-brown-crash


A female attending the NHRA Arizona Nationals received serious injuries today after being struck by debris at Firebird Int'l Raceway. She was transported by helicopter to Good Samaritan Medical Center for treatment. The debris came from Antron Brown's dragster following an incident during the first round of eliminations. Brown was not injured but went to Chandler Regional Hospital at the insistence of his team.

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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: ProSport] #619820
02/21/10 07:56 PM
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Prayers go out to all involved.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: galen] #619821
02/21/10 08:16 PM
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thats very sad indeed,
its very out of charactor + a horrible turn of events

mmy prayers to her and family

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Captain Flapjack] #619822
02/21/10 08:27 PM
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Be alert when attending any event ..



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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: TMP66] #619823
02/21/10 10:12 PM
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Nostalgia Motorsports’ Jim Broome phoned to share that during the NHRA Arizona Nationals first round eliminations Antron Brown’s top fuel dragster crashed shortly before the finish line losing the left rear tire. The tire flew into the crowd instantly killing one woman




Nothing official at this point (3:20 PM) NHRA announced the woman was transported to the hospital and no word on her condition. I wish people would shut the Hell up about unconfirmed rumors/info and stop running their mouths via the damn internet.






ESPN is reporting that a woman spectator was killed, confirmed by the police dept. there. Rest in Peace, prayers sent.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Kyle Reasbeck] #619824
02/21/10 10:18 PM
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I received this info around 4:30 or so from some guys that pit on a few top fuel teams. I guess there were two people involved. Both in wheelchairs. I guess not only did the lady die,but her husband or a male sitting next to her also was taken away in a ambulance. From what I here, that everyone could get out of the way except these two because of there condition being in a wheel chair

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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: MoparPitBull] #619826
02/21/10 10:52 PM
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Crazy day of racing @ firebird. Sad to hear about the death, thought and prayers to the family members. They do nee some tall fences though. I know its a pain to watch through a fance, but that beats debri hitting ya.

Kasey

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: MoparPitBull] #619827
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I just saw confirmation on ESPN. Sad day.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Moparnut426] #619828
02/21/10 10:59 PM
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Crazy day of racing @ firebird. Sad to hear about the death, thought and prayers to the family members. They do nee some tall fences though. I know its a pain to watch through a fance, but that beats debri hitting ya.

Kasey




how tall would you make the fence? that tire was 20' up in the air. as sad as it is being around racing is dangerous and not a lot you can do to prevent an accident like that.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Redsled] #619829
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Very Sad Day

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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Quicktree] #619830
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Quote:

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Crazy day of racing @ firebird. Sad to hear about the death, thought and prayers to the family members. They do nee some tall fences though. I know its a pain to watch through a fance, but that beats debri hitting ya.

Kasey




how tall would you make the fence? that tire was 20' up in the air. as sad as it is being around racing is dangerous and not a lot you can do to prevent an accident like that.




It didnt get 20 ft up untill it got outside the guard rail, and gained momentum. The fence at 18FT might have helpped if it was 10ft on either side of the track.

Just a thought??

KAsey

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Redsled] #619831
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it's time to slow those fuel cars down. The accident rate in the past several years has been very high....the last period I remember being like this was the 67-69 period when all the cars were being sawed in half by slider clutches.

It seems to me that the sport, professionally, is at a crossroads. NASCAR had the same decision to make back around 1970 or so when the winged cars were running speeds actually faster than what they run today.

My way of thinking is that those cars are so powerful, so violent, and so quick that it is almost impossible to react if something goes wrong. The driver just belts himself in and goes for the ride.

They can be slowed down without sacrificing the show. Smaller blowers, single mags, and a limit on fuel pump size would be a good place to start.

Instead, my fear is that NHRA will make some sweeping rule change, applying some new rule to everyone from TF to the regular bracket guy to spend several hundred dollars on the latest trick from some sponsor that just happens to post some contingency money. They will do this rather than make some changes in the way the fuel classes are run, lest they tick off some big money sponsor or Fuel owner.

Did you hear Greg Anderson's comments regarding the Pro Stockers? What were they doing running when the track was in that shape? NHRA hosts Full Throttle events one on top of the other, no break, no latitude to change the schedule to make things right. It is all about TV, and the "show must go on".

I am sorry for my cynicism, but NHRA has basically lost credibility to me, and has for several years. I remember when the motto was "dedicated to safety". I really don't like feeling this way about the grandfather of drag racing organizations. But, I do.

The more I see what is going on, the more I continue to love Nostalgia racing. Give me my Nostalgia Super Stocks any day.


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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Moparnut426] #619832
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Very sad to hear. There's a risk to ANYTHING we do, you just hate to see stuff like that.

I used to deliver to the old Diamond P Motorsports offices in Nashville. In their front room was a glass-topped table, the base of which was a Keith Black long-block with a huge hole in the side where a rod had come out of it. It had missed their top-end cameraman (on an elevated lift) by just a few inches during a T/F crash.

A friend of mine in elementary school was hit by a loose tire-wheel from a stock car in the 1970's, and suffered a broken collarbone. My dad; sitting right next to me; was hit in the head with by a good-sized rock at the same track 25 years later. (Mansfield, Ohio, before it was paved.)

I love watching fuel cars at the big-end, but I usually try to sit as high as possible... those parts are moving really fast.

My condolences to those involved.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Steve1118] #619833
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it's time to slow those fuel cars down.


i could live with that.


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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: maximum entropy] #619834
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My dad and I were at a local truck pull in Carrol Nebraska about 10 years ago, maybee 15, but there are no grand stands, just nice rolling hills on each side of the track, and we bring lawn chaires. Well my dad was sitting on an old colman aluminum cooler full of beer/pop. A 4x4 super stock was pulling and he had broken the tcase/driveline directly in front of us. He was towed off, and about 3 trucks later dad reaches into the cooler, and there was a few burst cans, and a planitery gear chunk tht had gone through the cooler, and we didnt even know it due to the noise, and excitement. EVERY motorsports event is dangerous, and sad things happen, but as was stated earlier, when the big guy needs ya you have no choice.

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Its a shame plain and simple RIP mam, I`m not a Greg Anderson fan, I really don`t care for him much. But I respect him credit for speaking up and saying what he did about the track conditions, I`m surprised he wasn`t bleaped out by NHRA/ESPN. He`ll probably get fined because as we all know the NHRA brass doesn`t like being told anything!


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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Steve1118] #619836
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i don't think the average fan has any idea of just how violent these TF cars are, participants generally understand and accept the risks involved. TF has been the premiere drag racing class and in principle limiting them just doesn't seem right. that said they really should put some severe restrictions on the class. as mentioned single mag, fuel pump/blower size etc. i don't know if they're still using the rev limiter but for those engines that's a bad idea. i'm sure a lot of people would object but personally i believe overall it would be better for the sport as a whole. the costs associated with TF have escalated to the point it's severely hurting the class. limiting the class would provide larger fields, greater safety and they would still put on a good show, maybe even go back to 1320. i don't know what happened but it seems they've had trouble over the years with cars shucking tires/wheels and having one of those monstrous things flying around something like this was bound to happen. i know they made changes to the wheels but maybe they're still not strong enough. i doubt fences are the answer even if they limit the class parts could still easily clear any reasonable fence. they should make changes to reduce the potential for cars shucking parts in the first place. it's a shame but it's time to really tighten down on the output of these cars...imho it would do more good than harm.

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