Joe I will say it once again . Please bring something to Carlilse or the Nats that "YOU " have done . I would love to see your work .
Anybody can read a book or look at picture's .
I might step on some toes here but you really need stop kissing Dave's "ECS" butt and chasing his posts looking for excuses to boost your post count .
My car will be at Carlilse , please bring yours and park beside me so we can compare more than pictures and drawings .
People like you with your "I'm right your wrong attitude " have ruined the hobby for people like me that have been pleasing people for more than 20 years with my resto's .
See you in PA .

It is the same as what is on the old house wiring, even the aluminum stuff. beepbeep is right that is not as simple as it may seem, but who knows where some old equipment/stock may be laying around.

Think of all the things that Chrysler farmed out...

My original harness - the ends terminate by placing the wire through any anonymous hole in the paper tape that is at the very end .
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beepbeep, I wasn't aware that you are called on to restore taillight harness looms. Now that I know, have re-examined my initial statement of your resto service as "a crime in it self." Too quick to judge before knowing all the facts. Guilty. On the contrary, to read as you go a little in depth, I can now respect what it is you're doing for those cars that request this needed service. Not looking for brownie points with you but do want to apologize for my very uneducated statement. You see there are others here feeling the same as I initially did. Even after their knowing what all is entailed.

There's no way beepbeep can do it for free - he's performing a professional job for the finest cars in the country. And with the price of these cars & gas today and an all day event for him to wrap one harness like he's said - he's about justified to me at least the time and labor costs for his doing this business. My local plumber and electrician, now there's a rape artist. He's got access to the correct machine, and knows how to use it correctly - just look at his finished work - now pay the man.

We should ask his previous customers what they think, if they said 'worth every penny,' and to see the pic he's posted of a harness he's personally restored, its freakin' beauty - and a no brainer who to call on. He's apparently as much an artist in this specialized service as any of the other restorers getting top dollar from us. And flat out said it's cheaper to get a new repro harness - so that's what you can always do if you don't think the cost is justified. Add up all that free info made of gold he usually presents to us, forget about it. Any time he breaks out the changing history, its because some one is trying too and we all know it.

beepbeep...could you post a picture of the finished product?

Let's be real.....

We can all cry about the price of essentials like gas and food, because we NEED it and cannot do without it, for all intents and purposes.

But as far as this issue is concerned, you always have the option of not buying it. 99.9% of the people in the world could care less, frankly about the price of wrapping a wire harness.

Thanks

ok i just got back from out of town,,,and thats it
beepbeep...i never would ve thought that was paper,but yeh i pulled on a frayed end and it broke like old string...what is it like hemp...lol,,j/k....im gonna do a rotisserie resto eventaully on my car ,so maybe resto harness may be the way to go,,or
maybe if u put out there for moparts members.. you mite get more than 50 ppl who want it done and make it worth your while and at same time drop cost,...thanks again
for info

My orignal tail light harness was wrapped all the way from front to back. What I did was remove the spades from the connector behind the kick panel, carefully slid off the woven covering, then made any needed repairs to my harness and connectors, then put it back on in reverse. The covering that spent it's entire life hidden under the door sill plate now resides in the trunk and I wrapped the hidden part with electrical tape. No one would ever know without taking the car apart and it looks like new.

Nice Idea!

I bought that 'wrap' from a family repair business that has been around since the 30's. I won't say it's a perfect replica of the original but it does look correct. Black cloth tape (friction tape) can be bought at most older established hardware stores.

Just an update for all of those who think that this was a ripoff. I sent my harness to Beepbeep to have redone, it came back way better than I could have ever expected. It looks like a new harness and the price was in line with what a new harness would have cost. I want to thank Joe for the help in getting this done and I hope you are feeling better.

I didn't know Joe offered any restoration services. What all does he do?

Tav

What all does he do...Post a lot of good,correct info/pictures for those who want to know and learn.Thanks Joe!!!

Amen to that!

There appears to have been at least two different paper taillight harness wraps used in 1970, maybe more? but at the least, two were used that differed slightly in appearance.

One type of wrap was used on a Gran Coupe (SPD 10-69) 'basic' rear harness (i.e. no courtesy lights for rear panels & non-convertible) original & out of my deceased aunt's '70.

The other paper wrap, with a different manufactured 'weave,' is found on the taillight harness to my '70 convertible (SPD 6-70)'deluxe' harness that has the courtesy light option. I have also seen it used on a friend's '70 Challenger SE.

Now wondering if both types of paper wrap are still available.

I stated earlier that this conv '71 Barracuda rear harness I also have here was wrapped in a cloth tape & not in paper like found on these 3 '70 E bodys. I may post pics later this week of the two different types of paper wraps.

Any one ever owned/seen an original '71 E Body with anything other than cloth tape used on the rear harness?

A side by side comparison of these two 1970 Barracuda tail light harnesses reveals the subtle difference in the 'weave.'

The difference can be seen on the standard harness on the right. Observing the colors of the paper used - looks like a blue and a white paper are used on both types. With the standard harness, the blue paper is exactly the same size as the white paper and both are woven in a criss-cross pattern.

The deluxe harness on the left is also woven in a criss-cross pattern, but the blue paper is much thicker than the white & when woven together, the wrap itself is tighter...i.e. not as loose.