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Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: topside] #603925 03/13/10 05:24 PM 03/13/10 05:24 PM
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Primer King member P Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 45 Frozen Northeast	Topside, you are correct. Those cars were not intended to last for any longer than the 1965 season. The cars that did run into 1966 or 67 were pretty desperate attempts at keeping pace (or in other words; HACKED/ABUSED TO PIECES!). I've seen pictures of the Commandos car launching and it's tweaked pretty bad. Lookes like a '63 if ya look quick enough because the freakin' windshield pillars were pulled/leaned back from the rear trying to twist the car in half. Did you see the magazine articles on the restored car? Sounds like it was a pretty delicate process. Hell, they were hard to work with when new. Everybody's heard the stories about guys holding sheets of plywood under the roof to support it so somebody could attempt to sand it and make some paint stick because the acid was still working even after the cars were painted. www.primerking.com : the place for anything that isn't shiny

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: Primer King] #603926 03/15/10 11:00 AM 03/15/10 11:00 AM
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Race&Resto super stock R Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 881 currently on moparts.	Quote: Makes me wonder a little. The car was a twisted/fatigued/sagging/poorly aligned mess by the time Landy was finished with it, and ya have to consider the fact that the original 10/15 relocation cars were far from pretty, with shoddy bodywork (due to the chemically milled and THIN body shells) even when originally received by the racers. Just my observations though. Coulda been as simple as Landy and his crew never bothered to align the doors properly and they made the body look more twisted/sloppy than it actually was. Maybe a simple door/fender gap alignment was all that was needed to make the car look much better. I think the racers doing wheel-stands all day long didn't help either, lol. Look at some of body gaps and the bent panels on these AWB cars!

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: Race&Resto] #603927 03/15/10 08:07 PM 03/15/10 08:07 PM
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Primer King member P Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 45 Frozen Northeast	Oh ya, the wheelstands didn't help at all. That was well known in '65 even, but still.... people paid by the boatloads to get in the gates to see the wild antics. The wheelstands hurt in lotsa ways. The initial shock (and couple hundred extra pounds in some of the trunks) was detrimental to the flimsy-to-begin-with structure. The sometimes not very smooth or subtle touchdown of the frontend back to the strip was murder on the thin stainless k-members too! Or even worse, the sideways and cockeyed touchdowns that sent a few cars clean off the track and crashing or coming close to it.... www.primerking.com : the place for anything that isn't shiny

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: Primer King] #603928 03/25/10 11:02 PM 03/25/10 11:02 PM
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Race&Resto super stock R Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 881 currently on moparts.	Chrysler sent out this telegram below to racers telling them to stop doing wheel-stands due to parts breakage, lol yeah no kidding!

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: Race&Resto] #603929 03/26/10 05:30 PM 03/26/10 05:30 PM
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Race&Resto super stock R Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 881 currently on moparts.	I read that Bobby Harrop the driver of the The Flying Carpet wrecked a couple himself, including the ex-Ramcharger's AWB car. I seen some old photo's where he put one over the guard rail, upside down on it's roof, see the 65 AWB crash photo's here.

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: Race&Resto] #603930 03/26/10 07:00 PM 03/26/10 07:00 PM
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hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,594 Great Neck,LI,new york	At what point did they move the drivers seat from the stock location? 5889355-IMG_1189.JPG (262 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: hemi-itis] #603931 03/26/10 07:39 PM 03/26/10 07:39 PM
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mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	I would say 1966 would be the time they moved to the single seat ala the flip top Comets and the Gilmore Mopars.Shirl Greer's 65 A/FX Dodge did have the seat moved to the center but I couldn't be sure if it was late 65 or 66. Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: hemi-itis] #603932 03/26/10 09:00 PM 03/26/10 09:00 PM
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Race&Resto super stock R Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 881 currently on moparts.	Quote: At what point did they move the drivers seat from the stock location? If you look at the link on Bobby Harrop's crash photo's just above your post, you'll see that the seat & steering wheel were located in the center of the car, so it's safe to say that they started doing that sometimes in late 65 or early 66 season.

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: Race&Resto] #603933 03/27/10 07:45 AM 03/27/10 07:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,619 Almost Heaven B_Body_Bob Master of nothing
B_Body_Bob Master of nothing Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,619 Almost Heaven	Quote: I read that Bobby Harrop the driver of the The Flying Carpet wrecked a couple himself, including the ex-Ramcharger's AWB car. I seen some old photo's where he put one over the guard rail, upside down on it's roof, There's footage of that crash on a DVD I got from beeonvideo, not sure off the top of my head which disk it's on though. Everybody makes fun of a hillbilly until they need something fixed

Re: 1965 AFX Cars [Re: B_Body_Bob] #603934 03/30/10 01:30 PM 03/30/10 01:30 PM
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Race&Resto super stock R Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 881 currently on moparts.	Here's a few more old photo's of the Butch Leal & Dave Strickler 65 A/FX altered wheel base cars:

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