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Re: 69 383 HP some w holley carb some carter AVS why? [Re: Promopar] #593789
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1968 383 4bbl 330hp AVS
1968 383HP 4bbl 335hp AVS

1969 383 4bbl 330hp Holley
1969 383HP 4bbl 335hp AVS

1970 383 4bbl 330hp AVS
1970 383HP 4bbl 335hp Holley

NO 383HP (335hp) c-bodies!!





I was told that the 69' road runner auto a/c 330hp used the Carter 4638.
Is this wrong?




Im using the 4638 on my 69 WP27H, 383/auto/AC

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Re: 69 383 HP some w holley carb some carter AVS why? [Re: 474218] #593790
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It appears 1969 is not as simple as my original post.

The 383 carb listing from the 1969 Chrysler Parts Catalog (Jan. '71 version).
Not 100% gospel - a duplicate part number listed for 2 different carbs.

Re: 69 383 HP some w holley carb some carter AVS why? [Re: 6bblgt] #593791
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1969 Monaco 383 4bbl auto (non-A/C) broadcast sheet - HOLLEY carb. Turquoise ENGINE August '68 SPD

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1969 Charger 383 4bbl auto with A/C - HOLLEY carb. Turquoise ENGINE October '68 SPD

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1969 Road Runner 383 auto (non-A/C) - Carter AVS carb. Orange ENGINE December '68 SPD

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1969 Charger 383 4bbl auto with A/C - Carter AVS carb. Turquoise ENGINE
Here's a "problem child" - "Spring Special" Charger with A/C and a CARTER carb'd TURQUOISE engine.

How? What? Why?

Was this a running change (spring '69) away from Holley on the non-performance applications.

GG's "white book" lists the 4616S used without A/C & the 4638S used with A/C.

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Re: 69 383 HP some w holley carb some carter AVS why? [Re: 6bblgt] #593801
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1969 Barracuda 383 4bbl 4-speed (non-A/C) - Carter AVS carb. Orange ENGINEAugust '68 SPD

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That's all the proof I can come up with right now. Who can add any sheets from April '69 & later?

Re: 69 383 HP some w holley carb some carter AVS why? [Re: 6bblgt] #593803
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I am kicking this one back into the light for a couple reasons... to show an interesting buildsheet remnant for a '69 383, 4 speed car with A/C and to try and find out what carb I should be running on my car.

Have a look. The carb number is damaged a bit but by simple deduction of what is left, the number could either be a "3" or a "2". I am guessing '38' for the carb number.

I have a '69 383 roadrunner with 4 speed and A/C. I am not entirely sure after reading this thread and looking at this build sheet WHAT carb I should be running. I have heard 4711S, I have read 4615S and now I am seeing (possibly) this third choice - a holley 4440A.

I don't know what car this build sheet came out of but there is enough info on it to determine it was a '69 330 horse 383 (897 code), 4 speed (603 code) with H51. Most likely a B-body based on the trans number.

In another thread - more recent - I have been told an AVS 4711S is the correct carb for my application. Now I don't know what to think.

Any ideas?

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Re: 69 383 H code some w holley carb some carter AVS why? [Re: ph23vo] #593804
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I have never seen a stock 1969 Mopar with a 383 four barrel that had a Holley on it from the factory I have seen low performance(350 HP) 440 with them in C bodys. I use to have had some of those carbs I have worked on a lot of stock 1969 383 Hi Po Dodge and Plymouth cars back in the day, never saw a Holley on a 383 HP until 1970 I have learned to Never say NEVER on Mopars


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Re: 69 383 H code some w holley carb some carter AVS why? [Re: Cab_Burge] #593805
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I agree with you. In looking at this sheet further, that first number does not appear to be a 3 (or a 2)...the shape of the contour doesn't match either of those numbers... its got to be a 9 equating to a 4711S.

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Have a look. The carb number is damaged a bit but by simple deduction of what is left, the number could either be a "3" or a "2". I am guessing '38' for the carb number.

I have a '69 383 roadrunner with 4 speed and A/C. I am not entirely sure after reading this thread and looking at this build sheet WHAT carb I should be running. I have heard 4711S, I have read 4615S and now I am seeing (possibly) this third choice - a holley 4440A. The 45 choke tells us it's an AVS. 56 indicates a Holley

I don't know what car this build sheet came out of but there is enough info on it to determine it was a '69 330 horse 383 (897 code), 4 speed (603 code) with H51. Most likely a B-body based on the trans number. the 897 assembly tells us it's from a B body



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Re: 69 383 H code some w holley carb some carter AVS why? [Re: ph23vo] #593807
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that seems to be the case. My old 70 383 S/E 4 speed charger had a little holley on it. Not sure if it was 4 speed vs auto or not. Maybe A/C vs non-A/C?


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back in 78 I bought a 68 R/T Charger 4 speed Dana.. It had a Holley and that car was as stock as stock could be. A self proclaimed Charger expert said ti wasnt stock.. In 81 I bought my 71 RR383 air grabber car. It had a factory Holley on it. The 67 440 New Yorker that my dad has was Holley equiped..


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