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Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Troy] #585879
01/21/10 07:27 AM
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I know this is an original car.
one side

5749687-ThatDart75-80.jpg (446 downloads)

It's a bigblock with a torque flight!!!
Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: mopar_to_ya] #585880
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Here is the other side.

I'm still looking for the template close up. I'm pretty sure it was a Chrysler Template, but I could be wrong.
I'll keep looking for you.

5749691-ThatDartYork.jpg (496 downloads)

It's a bigblock with a torque flight!!!
Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: mopar_to_ya] #585881
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for what it is worth, john balow of mcr (well know resto shop that did the speedwin car, and that's were the pic of the template came from by the way) told me that the wheel well had a general size but the crews that were working on the individual cars were given lots of leaway and so individual cars are/can be different, ie, no 2 cars are exactly alike. i see a close resemblance to 68/69 coronet rear wheel openings myself and also had a ss hemi dart owner tell me they used a garbage can lol. if you haven't done so check out mcr's site as there are alot of good pics on there of both original and clone cars they have done. also there was a light green original car on moparts with a link to alot of good pics, but i've lost that link and if anyone has it i would like it again. att. is my street clone and i didn't cut the wheelwells as high as the orginals because i didn't tub the rear and finding street tire over 29" tall and less then 11.5 sec. width is tough.thanks, dave

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Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Troy] #585882
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I wonder if the original templates were derived from the Dart's front wheel wells. Both front and rear openings look very similar.

Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: DoctorDiff] #585883
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I wonder if the original templates were derived from the Dart's front wheel wells. Both front and rear openings look very similar.





Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: streetking] #585884
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Another original 68 Hurst Hemi Dart

Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: NitroFixx] #585885
01/21/10 04:04 PM
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i have wheel lips off some duster front fenders on mine. gives it a more finished look.




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69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Troy] #585886
01/21/10 06:21 PM
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I CLICKED ON THIS LINK AND I GOT A BIG TIME VIRUS!!!

Sorry for yelling but I thought my computer was going to blow up!!




The photos are on webshots.com you can do a search for doncball albums, if you still want to take a look... I never had any problems with virus' on that site, and I don't think anyone else has, but sorry....

Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Hemi_Jack] #585887
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Ever see a 6 second Hemi Dart before !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7-r83T6osc&feature=related

It's a white car, so it's a little easier to see the out-line of the rear wheel-wells.

Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: donscuda] #585888
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I CLICKED ON THIS LINK AND I GOT A BIG TIME VIRUS!!!

Sorry for yelling but I thought my computer was going to blow up!!




The photos are on webshots.com you can do a search for doncball albums, if you still want to take a look... I never had any problems with virus' on that site, and I don't think anyone else has, but sorry....




Not your fault.

I'll tell you what, I opened it up at work and turned my computer into a big pile of poo!! My boss is so pissed!!!


....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Troy] #585889
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Darin's Hemi Dart is for sale. Nicest and most detailed original Hemi Dart I have seen. Dyno -"Gold Coast Hemi"

Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Troy] #585890
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Back to the subject at hand. I have been following this cars for years and I have seen many of these cars first hand. This is what I believe to be true.

I was told that the rear opening was done with a Sawzall, hammer and brazing torch and rod. After looking closely at the photo that I posted I believe this to be true.

One way to tell if a wheel opening has been altered after it left Hurst is you will see a plate added to the front of the wheel well. From Hurst the opening was cut, rolled over and the edges brazed up....that is it. If you look at the Dart that Bob Mosher is doing (http://www.moparsbymosher.com/) Look at the rear opening on that car and you can see how there was additional work done on that car. You will see what I'm talking about. That is the only way to get a 31" tall tire on these cars and that is what most of these people ran in them.

I heard the story about that it is the same as the front fender cut out. I personality don't believe it's true. They look close but it's off all the way around.


....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Troy] #585891
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Here is another shot of the rear wheel well of an original car.

5751760-DSC01696.JPG (375 downloads)
Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Troy] #585892
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I'll see if I can find the close up to see the measurements.





I have seen that template used on a few cars and I wonder who made it. I question it because it looks nothing like a stock cut out that was originally used. Many racers used a cut out like that so they could go to a taller tire. If that is the look your looking for, very good but if your looking for a stock Hurts cut out....try this.

Here is an original photo of the rear cut out..




Good lord!

Looks like the same one armed crack monkey that did these welded my Cuda's K-frame and blacked out the radiator support. Quality all the way!

Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: streetking] #585893
01/22/10 12:24 AM
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Not the best pic "Ready for delivery"

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Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: NitroFixx] #585894
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I have see many of the original Darts and mine as well and can tell you the work wasn't pretty or consistant.They cut,trimmed,folded over,tack welded and smeared a little puddy.Just as nice as the hammer job on the passenger shock tower.

Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: streetking] #585895
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Does anyone have any pictures, that can be posted, of Darin Rumples HEMI DART ? Are the wheel wells on his car stock HEMI DART size? Where can I find information about the correct size and shape of a HEMI DART wheel well? I am building a Race Car 68 Dart and love the look and the stance of Darins HEMI DART.. Thanks for any help, pictures, or information..




PM with with your phone number. I know a guy that has a template that was made off of Darrin's car. I might be able to help.

5752005-Dsc01733.jpg (294 downloads)
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Jerry Williams.
Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: hemidup] #585896
01/22/10 06:41 AM
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Here's one of Jack's Dart when he raced it, they used it for the Quaker City Reunion...

5752041-jack\'sdart1.bmp (583 downloads)
Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: B G Racing] #585897
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Form follows function.

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Re: 1968 Hemi Dart ???????????????????? [Re: Twostick] #585898
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This was a nice clone at Mopars at the strip 2009

5752320-wheelopening.JPG (407 downloads)
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