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Re: A66
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02/18/10 08:29 PM
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they are dealer installed is why dan
What was dealer installed ? mud flaps or wheel lip molding. All I know is the wheel lip molding screw holes look to put in with the same process as other cars I have had that were factory installed. Any other Hamtramck cars with mud flaps ? Hey Dan does your fender tag or B/S call out your rallye hood on your A66 ? 
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Re: A66
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02/18/10 09:51 PM
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Hard to tell from the photos, but I do not see fender top turn signal indicators? You could not get them with A01 on the Challengers with the raisin bran hood, so it is my guess that your car did not have the flat hood.
Look for L31 on your broadcast sheet to confirm it one way or the other.
Raisin bran hood is that the flat hood ? It says in the salesmans pocket guide that turn-signal indicators N/A with 340 and R/T ? I would think that ment with the J54 hood (Sport,Rallye )and cars with the flat hood would have them ? I agree and think the car above probably had a rallye hood from the fact it did not have the V-8 emblems on fenders and build date.
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Re: A66
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02/18/10 10:06 PM
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Mud flaps were not a factory item on these cars.
 My 70 Cuda (Hamtramck) had those mud flaps when I got it. I think they are just a universal auto parts store item from back in the day. Helps keep the rocks off your quarters when doing burnouts. 
Tav
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Re: A66
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02/18/10 10:09 PM
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More pics. 
Notice the R/T badge. The R/T badges that were on the fenders were the stick-on type.
The stick on R/T badges are for 71 cars. Your fender tag shows a 1969 build date. Looks like your stick on R/T badges were added by a previous owner who probably got them over the counter at the dealership.
Tav
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Re: A66
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02/18/10 10:22 PM
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Hey thanks!. Yes it is original paint. The box for the wheel lip moldings is not checked on the build sheet but it's got them,... ...Maybe these things were added early on at the dealer.
The vast majority of Challengers came with wheel well moldings as standard equipment. They are indicated on a challenger broadcast sheet.
Some cars like the T/As & A66 cars, etc., were not supposed to come with the standard challenger wheel well moldings. Those cars do not have a wheel well molding code on the broadcast sheet. Anyway, if such a car that wasn't supposed to have the moldings, did actually recieve them (possibly yours), then it was simply a mistake at the factory, and would still not be coded on the sheet.
Wheel well moldings were not optional on Challengers, so there was no way to special order them back onto your car if it was supposed to come without them.
barracudas on the other hand had wheel well moldings as an option, so on those cars, the moldings could have been officially added at the factory.
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Re: A66
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02/18/10 10:27 PM
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The vast majority of Challengers came with wheel well moldings as standard equipment. They are not indicated on a challenger broadcast sheet.
They are coded for Challengers that had them as standard equipment. 
A66 cars & T/As have nothing in the wheel lip box.
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Re: A66
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02/18/10 11:29 PM
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EV2A66, is your "pocket salesman book" the same version posted on Hamtramck-Historical? I don't think there was a "J54" code for the "raisin bran" hood until it became a purchasable OPTION on the Barracuda.  Winter time? M26 on b'cast sheet, car has wheel lip mouldings. No M26 - NO mouldings. (unless it was a mistake) No L31 on the FK5/V1X/V9X b'cast sheet.
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Re: A66
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02/19/10 01:29 AM
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EV2A66, is your "pocket salesman book" the same version posted on Hamtramck-Historical?
I don't think there was a "J54" code for the "raisin bran" hood until it became a purchasable OPTION on the Barracuda. Winter time?
M26 on b'cast sheet, car has wheel lip mouldings. No M26 - NO mouldings. (unless it was a mistake)
No L31 on the FK5/V1X/V9X b'cast sheet.
That's what I'am getting at was there a J54 sport,raisin bran, rallye hood code on these cars early on ? you answered that. And yes I got my copy of the salesmans book (date ?) off the Hamtramck site. Thanks Barry  But the first 4 months of these cars are all over the place. My car has a flat hood with factory hood pins, at least it calls out the hood pins. Why don't the early cars call the sport,raisin bran, rallye hood out ? There seems to be few early cars A66 showing up with wheel lip moldings are they all dealer installed ?
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Re: A66
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02/19/10 02:54 AM
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Obviously the "brass" wanted the Challenger to be all things to all people, and they were successful selling 83,000+ units in the first model year. .... but late introduction of the "A66" package (what exactly was the package?) looks to have confused the line workers as much as it is confusing us. I'm sure the early 340 Challengers caused all types of havoc on the assembly line. The instructions for the "body-in-white" (fender tag) has JH "OOOPS" no R/T hood. The "A66" cars were the first Challengers to be wheel-lip mouldingless, here comes a Challenger "OOOPS" it has wheel-lip mouldings now. What's the next car in line its got a big white stripe, throw this black grill in it, "OOOPS"!
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Re: A66
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02/19/10 01:17 PM
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Obviously the "brass" wanted the Challenger to be all things to all people, and they were successful selling 83,000+ units in the first model year.
.... but late introduction of the "A66" package (what exactly was the package?) looks to have confused the line workers as much as it is confusing us.
I'm sure the early 340 Challengers caused all types of havoc on the assembly line.
The instructions for the "body-in-white" (fender tag) has JH "OOOPS" no R/T hood.
The "A66" cars were the first Challengers to be wheel-lip mouldingless, here comes a Challenger "OOOPS" it has wheel-lip mouldings now.
What's the next car in line its got a big white stripe, throw this black grill in it, "OOOPS"!
I think this is the best explination yet for the differences in the early A66 cars.
Mike
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Re: A66
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02/19/10 02:29 PM
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I put some numbers together, these are ballpark - NOT exact!~ 410,000 cars built for '70 at Hamtramck & Los Angeles 1 out of every 5 cars was a Challenger body 1 out of every 20 cars was a Challenger R/T (incl. R/T SE) 1 out of every 60 cars was a 340 Challenger 1 out of every 4 Challengers was a R/T (incl. R/T SE) 1 out of every 5 Challengers was FC7 "plum crazy" 1 out of every 12 Challengers was an "A66" 340 package car & 1 out of every 2 cars was a DUSTER body 
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Re: A66
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02/19/10 02:44 PM
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I am glad that I found mine, thank you craigslist!. Has anybody registered with Govier?, just curious.
`68 Road Runner "JUNKYARD DOG"
`70 A66 FK5 Challenger, Rough project.
`68 Coronet R/T Black & white 4 speed.
`97 Dodge 1500 4X4, 228,000 miles and going strong!
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Re: A66
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02/19/10 04:11 PM
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Did he tell you anything about it you didn't already know?.
`68 Road Runner "JUNKYARD DOG"
`70 A66 FK5 Challenger, Rough project.
`68 Coronet R/T Black & white 4 speed.
`97 Dodge 1500 4X4, 228,000 miles and going strong!
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