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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Alaskan_TA] #562693
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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Alaskan_TA] #562696
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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Alaskan_TA] #562697
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How about info on the fender V8 emblems . What does it say in the books, what cars got them, was there any changes during the year ? What I am seeing here is flat hood and early sport hoods with no call out and sport hood with decal got the V-8 fender emblems and later sport hood cars with 340 emblems didn't have the V8 on fenders ?

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The V-8 emblems are in these books, but do not show an engine size application.

There is a seperate fender emblem for the 383 4-v flat hood cars though.

Also, if the 340 decal is a factory part, it would have a part # & someone here will find a record of it sooner or later.

If not, we will just wonder about it forever.

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Also, if the 340 decal is a factory part, it would have a part # & someone here will find a record of it sooner or later.






I'm not really buying it until I see an NOS one with a part number on the backside. It makes no sense for Chrysler to make these if they had the emblems....


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There is no reference to any 340 four barrel Challenger emblems/nameplates in any versions of the 70 parts book, I have checked them all. The V8 emblem appears to be the emblem of choice for all cars that are either 318, 340, and 383+2 equipped cars. The 23 section of the 70 parts book(all editions and changeup additions/supercessions) show the JH hardtop model with a flat hood only, and either a V8 or 383 four barrel emblem on the fender. It is as if the 340 motor in a Challenger did not exist in the parts book for 1970.

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If you think the '70 parts book is bad, you should see what they're like nowadays. Rear body panel for an '07 Charger isn't shown or listed; you have to turn the VIN filter off and order one for an '06. Many Sprinter parts are not listed, side panels using VIN often are wrong, etc.
I spend hours per week helping the Parts guys find the parts I need. I don't think the parts books are always unassailable as far as accuracy.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: anlauto] #562702
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Also, if the 340 decal is a factory part, it would have a part # & someone here will find a record of it sooner or later.






I'm not really buying it until I see an NOS one with a part number on the backside. It makes no sense for Chrysler to make these if they had the emblems....




That's the problem, there were NO "340 Four Barrel" emblems at the start of the '70 model year. The A66 "package" didn't exist either at that time. I wonder if there were any 340 4bbl Challenger "road tests" in any magazines?

I have seen flat hood 340 cars and always thought the "R/T hood" was an option (now it appears that may have been an early thing?).

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This is turning into a good read! The 70 Challenger has not been touched by me this is exactly how I bought it in 86, it shows no signs of repair work or damage other than the hood repaint, the car came with hood blackout and that was never reinstalled after repaint??? I'm really glad they tapped off the decals.The wheellip mlds. have been on the car since I bought it and look like they were factory installed but i didnt buy it new so??? Its a cool car orignal paint but tired,hate to loose the orignal paint but it really needs resto! Ever since buying the car I always keep an eye out for 340 decal cars seen a few but not many.

Alan wish I had an NOS decal, I have so much NOS for this car been collecting stuff for it since 86, bought a NOS grill,Headlight bezels, all 4 sidemarkers, taillights and turnsignal lens from Gateway Mopar (Scott S) about 87 for 800.00 at nats but never came across decal, seems cheap today but I was whining in 87

Car was found by a friend of mine in GA he bought it from the original owner (lady) and he and another friend went to pick it up asking price 3k while they were trailering it home friend two said he would like to purchase the car if it ever comes up for sale so new owner tacked on 1k and said we can drop it off at your house, two weeks later I saw car and told friend if it ever comes up for sale Please let me know he said for 1K more than he paid I can take it home, so it came home and being the pack rat I am its stayed with us.

Alan one thing I can assure you I didnt print these decals up, years ago I talked to Ron Adair and he supposingly had an NOS for 350.00 never saw it and wouldnt have paid it in the nintys but thats the only one I've ever heard of........Paul

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That's the problem, there were NO "340 Four Barrel" emblems at the start of the '70 model year. The A66 "package" didn't exist either at that time. I wonder if there were any 340 4bbl Challenger "road tests" in any magazines?

I have seen flat hood 340 cars and always thought the "R/T hood" was an option (now it appears that may have been an early thing?).




Sort of... Car Life December 1969 has a real early Challenger 340 Sublime, flat hood car on the cover. In that magazine is the "Genghis Grape" 440 six pack 4 speed convertible road test.

Car Life December 1969 article excerpt:

"We had a chance to briefly compare the 440 R/T [sixpack] tested here with a Challenger carrying a 340 engine on 318 suspension. It's on the cover (we like lime-green almost as well as we like metallic grape) but it's not tested because it's not a car you can buy. Dodge built it for another magazine.

We have an interoffice bet on whether the suspension/engine confusion gets noticed there, in case anybody wants to thumb though our rivals on the newsstand

The 318 suspension was softer, as you'd expect, and more comfortable on the highway and over rough roads. Mile understeer showed up on fast turns but the car felt so secure we had to get out and check the thing before we decided it didn't have the optional suspension. The 318 Challenger come with a standard suspension that an enthusiast will like, and that something we don't say very often. The production 340 has and anti roll bar in the back to increase roll stiffness without hurting ride in a straight line. The 440 can't do this, because the big engine need those big spring and more roll resident would make the car skitter off course tail first. Both Challengers we've driven handle well., but we're still looking forward to a real 340."

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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Beeware] #562705
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Alan one thing I can assure you I didnt print these decals up, years ago I talked to Ron Adair and he supposingly had an NOS for 350.00 never saw it and wouldnt have paid it in the nintys but thats the only one I've ever heard of........Paul




I was the one that brought these "decals" up in the thread and I can assure you they were original and real. I knew, even back in the eigthies, that there was something strange about them.
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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 6bblgt] #562706
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Also, if the 340 decal is a factory part, it would have a part # & someone here will find a record of it sooner or later.






I'm not really buying it until I see an NOS one with a part number on the backside. It makes no sense for Chrysler to make these if they had the emblems....




That's the problem, there were NO "340 Four Barrel" emblems at the start of the '70 model year. The A66 "package" didn't exist either at that time. I wonder if there were any 340 4bbl Challenger "road tests" in any magazines?

I have seen flat hood 340 cars and always thought the "R/T hood" was an option (now it appears that may have been an early thing?).




I have a Motorcade magazine that does a road test of an A66 car. It has a flat hood. Any other info you need?

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I have a Motorcade magazine that does a road test of an A66 car. It has a flat hood. Any other info you need?




Sounds like a couple of test mules were built. A 340 with 318 suspension?

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I have a Motorcade magazine that does a road test of an A66 car. It has a flat hood. Any other info you need?




What issue & can you post pics?

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those decals look like the early prismatic cal custom stuff ...they made those decals in every variety.. i bet thats what they are... dan

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those decals look like the early prismatic cal custom stuff ...they made those decals in every variety.. i bet thats what they are... dan

Dont think thats the case! Seen at least 10-12 cars through the years some of the members here that have been playing with these cars many many years have also seen them and the decal is NOT prismatic. ...........Paul

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While someone is hunting pics of the decals....let's about radiators for a minute! Since a 2998949 and a 2998974 are both listed as being for cars with a 340, which one is considered more correct? I've seen A66 cars with an example of each. My 70 A66 is a non AC car, and I pulled a bonehead move back in the early 80's.....and swapped the original radiator into another car. I sold the other car I have since bought a 949 radiator,but I'm not positive that would be the correct one. The most recent A66 that I have seen which is mostly original belongs to Moparts member Burkenator. His had a 974 radiator. Barry...Scott? Oh, BTW...my car has a factory argent grill and Rallye hood with emblems instead of stickers.

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I only have 10 A66 broadcast sheets on file so far, all 10 show the 74 radiator.

Not all of them show the J54 hood.

Hopefully more A66 owners or folks with broadcast sheets for them either register or contact me.

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