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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Beebuzzn] #562673
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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Beebuzzn] #562675
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C55 G33 M21 N41 N42 R11
EB5 A01 A04 A05 A66 B51
EB5 H6B5 000 A27 C01026
E55 D32 JH23 H0B 171578

Got this car off the second owner with 19,000 miles on it. It has the rallye hood with no callouts on it. Also has 15x7.0 rallye wheels all dated Sept 24, 1969. No wheel opening mouldings. Matching Space saver Spare. I also have the previous car to this one: JS27U0B171577. Let me know if you have any questions about the 340.

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Hey Dwight does your A66 have the V-8 emblems on the fenders ? It seems the early cars that got the rallye hood and no call outs and some that had the decal had the V-8 on fenders ? and later cars with 340 emblems on rallye hood had no V-8 on fenders ? What color grille ?


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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Beebuzzn] #562677
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Three of us (BeepBeep, Snoopy & myself) had a conference call a couple night ago about the stickers. We all have different revisions of the 1970 parts book, I have three versions of the 1970 Collision parts book & Snoopy has a copy of the superceded part numbers book.

We dug deep & checked every book we could think of that we had access too.

The result is that none of us could find a mention of the sticker or a part number for it in the books we have.

Can anyone else find it mentioned in any source? If so, it would be very cool to see.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Alaskan_TA] #562678
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Three of us (BeepBeep, Snoopy & myself) had a conference call a couple night ago about the stickers. We all have different revisions of the 1970 parts book, I have three versions of the 1970 Collision parts book & Snoopy has a copy of the superceded part numbers book.

We dug deep & checked every book we could think of that we had access too.

The result is that none of us could find a mention of the sticker or a part number for it in the books we have.

Can anyone else find it mentioned in any source? If so, it would be very cool to see.




Wow, Barry is stumped!!! That doesn't happen too often.

Barry, once we get enough A66 cars IDed maybe you can figure out when they used them. Could this be another example of "ran out of the part and had to substitute something quickly"?


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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Beebuzzn] #562679
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Hey Dwight does your A66 have the V-8 emblems on the fenders ? It seems the early cars that got the rallye hood and no call outs and some that had the decal had the V-8 on fenders ? and later cars with 340 emblems on rallye hood had no V-8 on fenders ? What color grille ?





It has a silver grille and the V 8 emblems. No stick ons on the hood.

Barry, I have every change up editon of the 70 parts book that there is. I will take a look through all of them for clues.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: m46rat] #562680
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Dwight,
This what I found in the 70-71 Parts Book.

There is no listing for the 340-4 Barrel name plate in the May 70 edition of the 70 only Parts Book.

NAME PLATE, Hood,
1 - 3443 247 "340-4 Barrel"
2 - 2998 801 "383 Magnum"
2 - 2998 800 "426 Hemi"
2 - 2998 804 "440-6 Pack"
1 - 3462 491-2 "440"
1 - 3462 489 Lt. "426 Hemi"
1 - 3462 490 Rt. "426 Hemi"
3 - 9420 276 Nut

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Snoopy] #562681
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My former early Dec built 1970 challenger 340 had metal pin on nameplates - hood was still original paint when I bought the car.
I've still got one of the nameplates on my toolbox as a momento


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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: gtx6970] #562682
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Was the name plate only on the drivers side? The reason I ask, is because the 70-71 parts book only lists 1 required.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Snoopy] #562683
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Does it have a part number on the back of it Bill?

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Alaskan_TA] #562684
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Can you post a picture? Does it spell out the 4 (four) or 340-4 Barrel?

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Snoopy] #562685
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Was the name plate only on the drivers side? The reason I ask, is because the 70-71 parts book only lists 1 required.


I think it was a slip in the parts book... same two pin nameplate used on both left and right side, 3443246 cast on the backside...3 pin shaker is 3577361 cast on backside, same one for both sides of the shaker scoop

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: mccannix] #562686
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Terry,
Did the Challenger shaker bubble use the same 340 emblem as the Cuda?

Does this look correct?

From the 70-71 Parts Book.
Plymouth - 340 Four Barrel - 3577361 - Shaker
Plymouth - Cuda 340 - 3443159 - Non Shaker.
Dodge - 340-4 Barrel - 3443247

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Snoopy] #562687
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Challenger shaker used 340 FOUR BARREL, same as steel hood Challenger, only it had 3 pins.
Cuda shaker used CUDA 340 with 3 pins, and 2 pins on the steel hood nameplate.
Here's the steel hood 2 pin on the top and the shaker 3 pin on the bottom.

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Can you post a picture? Does it spell out the 4 (four) or 340-4 Barrel?




I'll ck tomorrow . I think it only had the 2 pins on the backside - attaches with barrel/tube nuts as there is no way to get to the backside for a palnut
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It was the original no crush zone hood and still had both 70 only fenders so I believe the car to have been all original metal/emblems.
No 'V8' emblems anywhere to be found.


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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: mccannix] #562689
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I'm by no means an E-body expert, but the '70 Chally that's burned into my memory - I was trying to figure out how to buy it off the Dodge dealer's lot in Van Nuys, CA - was a light green 340, dual-scoop hood with 340Fourbarrel nameplates, no V8 badges, Bee decals in the quarter windows, E60-15s on Rallyes, no wheel-opening mldgs. I was struck by how it appeared to be a detrimmed R/T with a small-block, why it wasn't an R/T, and the detail differences. I'm thinking it was soon after the Chally came out, just turning to fall, and I hadn't seen a T/A yet. I'm not as positive about the grille color, though.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: gtx6970] #562690
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Regarding the differences in the shaker and non shaker 340 FOUR BARREL nameplates, I might add that the 340 finish is brushed on the shaker and chrome on the steel, at least on NOS here. Also the 3 pins on the shaker are larger diameter and longer than steel hood one. Plus the pin on the BARREL end is in a different location on the shaker than on steel hood. A couple versions of the parts books have mistakes in nameplate part number listings.
Here's the backside of both and as you can see 3577361 is cast on the shaker and 3443246 on the 2 pin steel hood nameplate.
There was also a 3 prong 'CUDA 340 shaker nameplate along with a 2 prong steel hood version

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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: gtx6970] #562691
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First post of six, images from the 1970, 1970-71 & 1970-72 collision parts books. No mention of a 340 sticker at all & no mention of a 340 emblem at all for 1970 Challengers.

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2nd image from 1970;

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