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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: KISSAlien] #562633
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It could have been done when brand new though. If a customer wanted a sports hoos on a regular Challenger the dealer could have swapped them.

I could see someone going from flat hood to sport hood, but sport hood to flat hood ??? and then put holes in it for hood pins ? I just don't see that happening. I think the car being as original as it was tells the story. By the way I have the original hood and deck lid as I replaced both with the correct early 70 pieces do to some rust issues. Always keep my left overs just in case I need them for a reference. Maybe that's why I don't have any room in my garage.


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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 318 Stroker] #562635
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Weird thing is it has the foot-operated windshield washer pump.




Does it have rallye guages?



No,just the standard gauge cluster.


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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Beebuzzn] #562636
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per the '70 Dodge "salesman's pocket guide" 9/23/69 version:
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - $258.90
NA Special Edition (29), NA R/T (JS)
15" Rallye wheels (W21) - required at EXTRA cost
collapsable spare (W34) - required at EXTRA cost

this changed at some point - as the following shows

per the '70 Dodge "dealership data book" no date found
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - includes
340 engine - E55
F70-14 RWL tires - T87
R/T hood
H.D. brakes
H.D. suspension
"bumble bee" stripe
"scat pack" decals
wheel lip mouldings "DELETED"

& we do need a picture of this 340 hood decal!!

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 6bblgt] #562637
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Who has an original window sticker (or copy) for a '70 A66 Challenger?

I have copies of 2, unfortunately one is for a 340 convertible. I say unfortunately because some dealerships were mis-informed or mis-understood the 15" tire/wheel availability on a convertible & thought 15" tires were NOT available on a Challenger convertible. (just to add confusion 40 years later)

JH27H0B159xxx - Y05 & SPD A14 - W21 $43.10 & T87 ($47.95 CREDIT)
JH23H0B234xxx - Y05 & SPD 114 - W23 $un-readable & T86 No Charge

IMO the change from E60-15s VS. F70-14s being STANDARD was some time between 10/14/69 & 1/14/70.

No mention of a hood or wheel lip mouldings on either Window Sticker.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 6bblgt] #562638
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Who has an original broadcast sheet (or copy) for a '70 A66 Challenger?

I have copies of 2, unfortunately both are for 340 convertibles. (see above)

JH27H0B152xxx - Y05 & SPD A06 - W21, W34 & U82 (NO J54 or M26)
JH27H0B159xxx - Y05 & SPD A14 - W21, W34 & T87 (NO J54 or M26)

Who has some documentaion that shows how the "package" was equipped at the start of the model year?
Anything that shows E60-15s (U82) being STD etc.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 68Cbarge] #562639
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Weird thing is it has the foot-operated windshield washer pump.




Does it have rallye guages?



No,just the standard gauge cluster.




The reason I asked is that the electric washer came std. with the rallye guages.

On a std. cluster car, it is not weird at all to have the manual foot pump. As a matter of fact, most std. cluster cars came that way. The 3-spd. (or variable) wipers were optional with the std. cluster, and I don't think very many were ordered that way...

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 6bblgt] #562640
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Hamtramck - Historical is your friend.

per the '70 Dodge "salesman's pocket guide" 9/23/69 version:
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - $258.90
NA Special Edition (29), NA R/T (JS)
15" Rallye wheels (W21) - required at EXTRA cost
collapsable spare (W34) - required at EXTRA cost

this changed at some point - as the following shows

per the '70 Dodge "dealership data book" no date found
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - includes
340 engine - E55
F70-14 RWL tires - T87
R/T hood
H.D. brakes
H.D. suspension
"bumble bee" stripe
"scat pack" decals
wheel lip mouldings "DELETED"

& we do need a picture of this 340 hood decal!!




7/23/69:
The 340 Performance Package (A66) will be available on the hardtop and convertible models in conjunction with the 340 engine in early September. The 340 engine will only be available in combination with the 340 Performance Package.

10/20/69:
Effective immediately, F70x14-inch RWL tires (T87) are standard with the 340 Performance Package. The E60x15-inch tires (U82) will be optional at extra cost. The Collapsible Spare (W34) and Rallye Wheels will no longer be required with the 340 Package. A Rear Spoiler in Dull Black (J81) will be available in early November. Effective immediately, Performance Axle Packages A31 and A36 are available with the 340 Package.

2/12/70:
Longitudinal Tape Stripes on the Challenger high-Iine models (JH23, JH27, JH29) will be available in mid-March as an extra-cost option. Color availability and codes are: Black (V6X), White (V6W), Red (V6R), Green (V6F) and Blue (V6B). This tape stripe will be similar to the standard R/T stripe but without the R/T nomenclature. This stripe is a no-extra-cost option with the 340 Performance Package (A66).

4/13/70:
The Shaker Hood is now available on the Challenger R/T with the 440-6V and 426 engines. In addition, this hood is also available with the 340 Performance Package (A66) and will be available on the 383 and 440-4V engines on R/T models in late April. The Challenger T/A Fiberglass Hood (N94) is now available on all Challenger models with 4-barrel engines.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 6bblgt] #562641
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Who has an original broadcast sheet (or copy) for a '70 A66 Challenger?




I thought you had a copy of mine, but send me an email to remind me and I'll send you mine Dan.

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Who has some documentaion that shows how the "package" was equipped at the start of the model year? Anything that shows E60-15s (U82) being STD etc.





Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: Sublime70] #562642
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Cool, it looks like the A66 cars only came in the coolest colors

Maybe we should start an A66 registry thread.




Not all of them. But because the bumble bee stripe was standard they did often get some of the rarer combinations. Here's mine.

+ Y05 26 EN1 +
M21 N41 N42 R22 V21 V9W
EW1 A66 C55 J45 J54 J81
EW1 H5X9 000 508 ******
E55 D13 JH12 H0B ******


Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: KISSAlien] #562643
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I didn't know the "package wasn't available from the start of the model year.
earliest VINs I have recorded are:
"B" - MI - JH23H0B1158xx - SPD 90?
"E" - LA - JH23H0E1096xx - SPD A03

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per the '70 Dodge "salesman's pocket guide" 9/23/69 version:
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - $258.90
NA Special Edition (29), NA R/T (JS)
15" Rallye wheels (W21) - required at EXTRA cost
collapsable spare (W34) - required at EXTRA cost

this changed at some point - as the following shows

per the '70 Dodge "dealership data book" no date found
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - includes
340 engine - E55
F70-14 RWL tires - T87
R/T hood
H.D. brakes
H.D. suspension
"bumble bee" stripe
"scat pack" decals
wheel lip mouldings "DELETED"




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10/20/69:
Effective immediately, F70x14-inch RWL tires (T87) are standard with the 340 Performance Package. The E60x15-inch tires (U82) will be optional at extra cost. The Collapsible Spare (W34) and Rallye Wheels will no longer be required with the 340 Package. A Rear Spoiler in Dull Black (J81) will be available in early November. Effective immediately, Performance Axle Packages A31 and A36 are available with the 340 Package.




Effective immeadiately - DID THEY CUT THE PRICE by ~ $50? or add other features to the "package"?


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The Challenger T/A Fiberglass Hood (N94) is now available on all Challenger models with 4-barrel engines.




YEAH Dodge!! 3 - R/Ts (2 are HEMI & 1 is 383) & 1 - A66 car KNOWN. I have a copy of the A66 car's b'cast sheet somewhere.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 6bblgt] #562644
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I'm dying to see this supposed decal.

Alpine white car JH23HOB180633

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I bought this car out of Ridgecrest Calif, around 2001. Was a 3 spd car. Had the wheels repainted. Heres the tag. I have seen the decal also, but been many years.

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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 68Cbarge] #562646
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Weird thing is it has the foot-operated windshield washer pump.




Does it have rallye guages?



No,just the standard gauge cluster.





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Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 69Mannix] #562647
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Late to the model line-up, sounds like Dodge got caught with their collective pants down by Plymouth, planning to offer the 'Cuda with the 340 as a no-cost option. This also would explain the decals on early cars as the lead time for an emblem would've been greater & they needed something fast.

Is it 340 MAGNUM or 340 FOUR BARREL?

I'd like to see pics of the top & bottom of "no-crush-zone" R/T hoods without holes for emblems.

I'd like to see pics top & bottom of the clearance holes for hood pins on a "no-crush-zone" flat hood.

Re: A66 Challengers what color grille [Re: 6bblgt] #562648
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A66 cars from both plants do have a registry;

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/register.shtml

The earliest ones I have fender tag data for from both plants so far;

Hamtramck - 922

LA - A03

The page at this link;

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1970/70_Challenger0024.jpg

shows the A66 code in the data book. I have another page with a list of revised pages to 'change out' to update the book, sadly, it is not dated. This page is on the list though. If anyone has page 116 & it looks different than that one in any way, I would love to see it.

Barry

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Weird thing is it has the foot-operated windshield washer pump.




Does it have rallye guages?



No,just the standard gauge cluster.




The reason I asked is that the electric washer came std. with the rallye guages.

On a std. cluster car, it is not weird at all to have the manual foot pump. As a matter of fact, most std. cluster cars came that way. The 3-spd. (or variable) wipers were optional with the std. cluster, and I don't think very many were ordered that way...



Kewl! His car has two speed wipers,AM radio with front speaker only.The bulge hood is original and has the 340 Four Barrel badges.


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This is in the "Dodge Material" brochure with the 440-6 shaker 70 Challenger on the cover, brochure dated 9/69

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This part of the text makes mention of tires/rims for the various 1970 Challengers

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Pic of the Hood Decal, I've owned this A66 car since 86 original paint car except hood, was a Hood Blackout car and was removed and repainted but they tapped off decals.

Hi Terry, Paul Petcou, from Michigan

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