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.....I've had no issuses with A,B,or E body installs, nor the Ford or Chevy application I've done, but I'm willing to alter the car for the application, that's what hotrod'n is all about
Mike

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Can you enlighten me regarding your A Body install experiences? I don't mind some cutting and fabbing, but I'm concerned about the amount of cutting necessary on the torsion bar crossmember. I have a photo (see attachment) from Richard at Keisler of the necessary cuts and they look downright scary strength-wise. How do you reinforce this area? Or do you...

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has anyone ever swapped one into an older full size ram?

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If they did i want to know what tail shaft housing they used. The Srt 10 uses a t56 but the shifter mount is to far forward add the height of the shifter handle and its almost useless for a race application.

Does anyone have the measurement of a small block bell housing that Keisler uses or if you have the magnum t56 with the multi shifter location what is the measurement from block face to center of the furthest handle location?

Ideal location would be about 6 inches further back than the stock location of the srt 10 or dodge ram with a manual.
Pictures are of the stock shifter location on a srt 10 with a 3-4 inch shorter shifter handle.

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.....I've had no issuses with A,B,or E body installs, nor the Ford or Chevy application I've done, but I'm willing to alter the car for the application, that's what hotrod'n is all about
Mike

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Can you enlighten me regarding your A Body install experiences? I don't mind some cutting and fabbing, but I'm concerned about the amount of cutting necessary on the torsion bar crossmember. I have a photo (see attachment) from Richard at Keisler of the necessary cuts and they look downright scary strength-wise. How do you reinforce this area? Or do you...

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Thats freakin crazy I have seen a few other "slight"modifications before but that is the first A-body "no hack job" installation that they advertise. I made less of a hole to put the huge Richmond in my car.
I would stay away from cutting that much off of your T-bar member.
Gus

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Thats freakin crazy I have seen a few other "slight"modifications before but that is the first A-body "no hack job" installation that they advertise. I made less of a hole to put the huge Richmond in my car.
I would stay away from cutting that much off of your T-bar member.
Gus

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Right, and precisely why I'll never run one in my Duster, there's no way in hades that I'll be hacking up the floor of a real 340 car like that even though an extra gear would be nice. I'll just wait to see what Jamie comes up with.

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Right, and precisely why I'll never run one in my Duster, there's no way in hades that I'll be hacking up the floor of a real 340 car like that even though an extra gear would be nice. I'll just wait to see what Jamie comes up with.

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Same goes for me!! I'll wait for Jamie.

Just wish he'd hurry...

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Right, and precisely why I'll never run one in my Duster, there's no way in hades that I'll be hacking up the floor of a real 340 car like that even though an extra gear would be nice. I'll just wait to see what Jamie comes up with.

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Same goes for me!! I'll wait for Jamie.

Just wish he'd hurry...

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Well that's the dilema in hodrodding a car with anything aftermarket, Mopar guys want the bolt-on no mods needed upgrades,....in the real world that's not the case regardless of the application,....if your worried about paint daubs, numbers, originality, so-called value,....then keep it stock

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Rather narrow one sided viewpoint you have there! I say you are mistaken, all it takes are the right parts to make a true bolt in work and changing back to "Paint Daub Correct" a worry free possibility and it sounds like those parts aren't too far around the corner. If you wish to go on hacking stuff up in the name of customizing go for it, I'll choose to be patient and wait for the right parts to come along.

BTW, aren't you the guy building the RTS Cuda clone? Do you plan on putting a Kiesler in that? Are you building it in your driveway or did you get a shop since you no longer work for Pam & Gary? Have you built anything since you worked for them? Post some pics if you have any.

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I am looking for a trans set up to go behind my motor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI2fGeL7DEE

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I modify the machine, which it is IMHO, to accept any upgrades I deem,.....I see no big deal in cutting away a crossmember to gain clearance, the big issuse is doing nothing to add re-enforcements.....when it's all said and done, it's under the carpet, who cares!....really?

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My car is not stock and has numerous modifications - all of which I like to think were carefully and tastefully executed.

However, while you see no big deal in cutting away the cross member that retains the torsion bars I think it is a pretty serious issue, considering what would happen if it were to fail while you were driving the vehicle at speed. I agree the issue is adding reinforcements, which is why my original post to you asked you what you have done on your A-body installs. Since you apparently have the hands-on experience can you tell me SPECIFICALLY what you did to reinforce the x-member after you cut those portions away?

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I modify the machine, which it is IMHO, to accept any upgrades I deem,.....I see no big deal in cutting away a crossmember to gain clearance, the big issuse is doing nothing to add re-enforcements.....when it's all said and done, it's under the carpet, who cares!....really?

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My car is not stock and has numerous modifications - all of which I like to think were carefully and tastefully executed.

However, while you see no big deal in cutting away the cross member that retains the torsion bars I think it is a pretty serious issue, considering what would happen if it were to fail while you were driving the vehicle at speed. I agree the issue is adding reinforcements, which is why my original post to you asked you what you have done on your A-body installs. Since you apparently have the hands-on experience can you tell me SPECIFICALLY what you did to reinforce the x-member after you cut those portions away?

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Durability and shifter location are the two main factors. I was going to order the t56 magnum months ago but they were unsure of the measurements of the bell housing so it was still a guess and it was weeks before it would ship same with auto so i rebuilt my 727. Called again about the new trans and again no details other than they wont know any thing until next month. Hell if you can get the info i need i will buy the damn thing from you!

Im ready to put the truck back to stock and make a 15k dollar table out of the motor

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Well that's the dilema in hodrodding a car with anything aftermarket, Mopar guys want the bolt-on no mods needed upgrades,....in the real world that's not the case regardless of the application,....if your worried about paint daubs, numbers, originality, so-called value,....then keep it stock

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Rather narrow one sided viewpoint you have there! I say you are mistaken, all it takes are the right parts to make a true bolt in work and changing back to "Paint Daub Correct" a worry free possibility and it sounds like those parts aren't too far around the corner. If you wish to go on hacking stuff up in the name of customizing go for it, I'll choose to be patient and wait for the right parts to come along.

BTW, aren't you the guy building the RTS Cuda clone? Do you plan on putting a Kiesler in that? Are you building it in your driveway or did you get a shop since you no longer work for Pam & Gary? Have you built anything since you worked for them? Post some pics if you have any.

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Maybe you should get your facts straight Harms, Gary and Pam weren't my employers, they were former CUSTOMERS,.....and what you never worked in your driveway, my garage is Filled to capacity, and if you've seen any of my past posts, I think you've seen I been rather busy with quite a few customers cars,.....unlike some, I have plently of customers and work,.......what this has to do with a Keisler post?, I don't know, but you felt it was of concern,......I guess you can sleep soundly now .....but hey that RTS clone sounds like a good project , I'll keep it in mind, you have any pics? or maybe I could cut a nice numbers 340 Duster to make an RTS Duster, that's about the only Duster I ever saw that was appealing.....I'd put a Keisler in that!

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What's the matter Mike? I must have hit a nerve?...Careful now, your true colors are showing again.

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No nerve hitting, just wanted you to be properly informed ......I wouldn't want you to have a restless sleep over it....nighty nite!


By the way,....you want to sell that 340 numbers Duster you have?....I was thinkin of a great project

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Numbers smumbers, it dosen't matter, sounds like it could be a nice project,....not for sale?,....I have a Keisler TKO 600 sitting in the garage, still in the box, set up for an A body, seriously,....sounds like it could be a nice driveway project

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Oh it's a real 340 car alright, has the original fender tag, body stampings, and a VIN tag, but the original engine and trans are MIA, so it's not a numbers matching car anymore. If you really have your heart set on it I'll sell it to you Mike, but I don't think you'd like my price. Tell you what, show up at my door with a bag of cash and we'll work the details out. Once you own it you can hack it all you want, after all, it's just another junky old A-body, who'd care?

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Modified 6.1, I have been battling transmission issues for a year and a half now. Really need a vendor that can back there product not just say they will. If there is a weak spot on the transmission im going to find it.

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