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Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #550835
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Hey Vic fix the ET for engine masters deal LOL

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #550836
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i have miss placed my Flow data but the heads went 380+CFM at .800 lift.
440-1 Indy head, and Indy maxx block, 440-2 cast single four intake.
4.44 x 4.5 stroke 557" 15.5:1 with a toilet injection methanol setup.
2100lbs car 175 mph. Typical 8th mile racer though...ran 143-144 mph every pass it didnt matter if it was July or October.


[color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color]
[color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]
Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: Bob_Coomer] #550837
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Here's two senario's,

#3178 weight
311 flow
268 int 274ex duration @.050
132.19 mph


same but with a 277int 274ex duration @.050

this might help me decide which cam to run this next season.


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Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: S/ST 3040] #550838
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Vic, here's mine
365 @.700
cam .692/.702 276/282 dur, I know I can use more cam
these are the card specs I dont know what the valve see's
weight 2410#
speed 149 best
I see it as 615 hp

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #550839
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My 360:
289cfm @.500 lift
.585 lift at the valve
made 560HP at 7300rpm
went 127.xx at 3350lbs.
D.A. rougly 2200ft.


Brian Hafliger
Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: S/ST 3040] #550840
12/11/09 08:48 PM
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The standard-port Stage VIs on my RB 452:

Lift-- Int / Exh / +2" tube
.100 -- 67 / 56 / 56
.200 - 142 / 104 / 107
.300 - 204 / 148 / 156
.400 - 253 / 185 / 198
.500 - 287 / 214 / 233
.600 - 307 / 234 / 257
.700 - 310 / 246 / 273

266 @ .050" x .600" (gross) solid flat-tappet cam

Race weight 3755 w/ driver

Trap speed on my best-ET pass was 126.4

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: BradH] #550841
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Just a quick rundown for the last few participants. (Thanks for the input)

Doug______532 HP
Bob_______865 HP
Bill________585 HP
Mike_______615 HP
Brian______530 HP
Brad_______585 HP

Jim, those were 974 heads. Same port.

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: S/ST 3040] #550842
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Quote:

So give your typical head flow, what your car weighs and quarter mile trap
speed. (I'll use Moroso's Power/Speed calculator)

0.600 334.1 252.0
0.700 350.3 264.8
0.800 368.5 280.5

279/287º @ .050" .690"/.660" lift flat tappet cam.

Race weight of 3210 lbs. and 9,21/142 MPH



Those are my numbers, do your thing.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: 440Jim] #550843
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Does 705 HP sound about right?

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: S/ST 3040] #550844
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hey Vic here you go
416 w/cnc Indybrocks
246/254@ 50 .590 Lift with a 108
2961lbs with me in it
4.88 with a 32x14
10.35 at 130 mph

flow
.100 73.7
.200 137.0 108.7
.300 199.3 150.2
.400 253.2 185.6
.450 275.2 185.6
.500 291.7 212.9
.550 302.4 219.8
.600 306.9 225.3
.650 310.5 228.8
.700 313.9 229.3

they where flowed on a 4.25 bore but are on a 4.070 x 4.00 motor


70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake

best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: dusturbd340W5] #550845
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385 @ .800, 2470, 169

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: dusturbd340W5] #550846
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Woody, that's right at 500 HP

I do see a trend here, concerning the air flow.
The BIG engines get more power out of the air
they have available.....typically.

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: TS3303] #550847
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385 @ .800, 2470, 169




920 HP

What are your cam specs?

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: S/ST 3040] #550848
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Here's one for ya Vic cam 260@.050in .420 lobe 1.65 intake ratio head flow @ .650= 325 / .700=331 trap speed 69.7 200ft in the mud

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: emarine01] #550849
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That cam's way too small Craig.

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: S/ST 3040] #550850
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555 Predator 545 cfm at .900 made over the 1120 hp that the calculation predicted

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Way too small But I like my new intake rockers

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: S/ST 3040] #550852
12/11/09 11:36 PM
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Quote:

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385 @ .800, 2470, 169




920 HP

What are your cam specs?




sorry no can do , the guy that bought it asked that I not post them. Just something I came up with to help the 440-1's on a 572. different ramps and lobes out of the CC master lobe catalog. I like the .200 durations... and it did NOT like a wide LSA.

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: TS3303] #550853
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Is it over .800" lift? I posted all my secrets first.
Oh wait, it's also the slowest.

Did you dyno the engine? 920 close?

Re: Cylinder Heads and Horsepower [Re: S/ST 3040] #550854
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not over .800. and not a secret, just the new owners request. never dyno'd but that was my guess 910-925. I think there was more in it with different gears, was turning 7650 with the 4.56 and felt flat at the stripe. Have 4.30 gears on order for the Predator motor but the date gets pushed back every month.

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