Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
[Re: cataclysm80]
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12/09/09 02:59 PM
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Here we are after a few days of soak off and on. Seems to work better in a warm environment.
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Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
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12/09/09 03:00 PM
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It's a lot better than it looks. The flash makes what little corrosion that is still there overemphasized.
Keep in mind I picked out the rustiest, nastiest thing I had in the garage to test it out!
I've also done a u-bolt and a splash shield (goes right in front of where the K-from bolts on the framerail) and it was amazing how clean both came out!
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Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
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12/10/09 10:49 PM
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Another thing to consider is that ANY acid based rust remover ALSO removes the metal itself, at the very least you'll end up with an acid etched surface. Consider this if you are trying to preserve any of the original part surface appaearance. If the surface is a concern stick with a product like Evap-O-Rust that destroys rust and leaves all other materials (metal, paint, etc, metal finishes, etc.) 100% intact.
Yet another opinion! I suppose you could look at it from the aspect of most likely if the item is rusted up the finish is going to have to be redone anyways! I have actually have tried the solution on painted items and it did leave the paint intact and glossy!
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Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
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12/10/09 10:55 PM
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I have actually have tried the solution on painted items and it did leave the paint intact and glossy!
Obviously for some heavily corroded or rust covered parts the surface won't matter and the acid approach is a valid choice, but my comments on more delicate surfaces are not simply "Another Opinion" it's verifiable fact.
Acids are corrosive to most metals and many other materials, not just rust. You may have had an example of one paint that was not affected, but you can't say that accross the board it won't harm paint.
Products like Evap-O-Rust do not harm ANYTHING but the rust itself.
.....And no, I don't work for Evap-O-Rust
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Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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12/11/09 01:03 PM
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I have actually have tried the solution on painted items and it did leave the paint intact and glossy!
Obviously for some heavily corroded or rust covered parts the surface won't matter and the acid approach is a valid choice, but my comments on more delicate surfaces are not simply "Another Opinion" it's verifiable fact.
Acids are corrosive to most metals and many other materials, not just rust. You may have had an example of one paint that was not affected, but you can't say that accross the board it won't harm paint.
Products like Evap-O-Rust do not harm ANYTHING but the rust itself.
.....And no, I don't work for Evap-O-Rust
Actually your mistaking on this! the ph value of evaporust is 6 they claim 6-7.1 @ 1% anything below a 7 is infact a acid I am sure if we measure vinegar @ 1% it will be alot higher than a 3-4 on the ph scale!
It is infact a weaker acid "maybe" but still an acid!! Some examples of weak acids are acetic acid (found in vinegar), carbonic acid, hydrofluoric acid, and formic acid. evapo-rust although they claim they are not a acid my guess is if you take their straight solution and measured the it would be infact a acid! and not a base! I like how they measure it at 1% http://www.evapo-rust.com/technical/EvapoRustTDS.doc
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Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
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12/11/09 01:25 PM
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evapo-rust although they claim they are not a acid
Well based on thier claim, yes I am right. But who cares anyway, acid/base, whatever. Right, Wrong, etc. What matters is that it works and doesn't harm delicate surfaces or finishes like the vinigar/citrus/salt blend can. I've tried Evap-O-Rust on a TON of small delicate items, I have never had an issue on any of them, not something I can say about the V/C/S mix, it's FAR more aggressive.
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Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
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I've tried it with Evap-O-Rust on my Honda 90, worked fantastic! Simply add the empty tank, leave it overnight with the cap on, pour it out the next day (it's re-usable, save it). After it's drained you can rinse it out with solvent and seal it with gas tank sealer, or if it's solid with no leaks just add gas and go.
By the way, from thier website:
Why Use Evapo-Rust ™� Removes rust quickly without scrubbing. � One gallon de-rusts up to 300 lbs of heavily rusted steel. � Removes even heavy rust .. COMPLETELY. � No fumes or bad odors. � Non-toxic. Safe on skin. Non-corrosive. � Non-flammable. No VOC's. � Easy to use, immerse part in solution. Water soluable. � Requires No Special Equipment. � Contains no acids, bases, solvents or other toxic ingredients. � Can be disposed of safely into sewer. � Will not attack un-rusted steel. � Safe on other metals.
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Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
[Re: cataclysm80]
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12/12/09 11:43 AM
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Each works in it's own way and his advantages/disadvantages. If I had to pick a favorite, I think it would be evaporust, but there are also a lot of parts where the cheap easy acid solution would be a viable alternative.
Tav
BTW, for those who want to see just what the difference is between Evap-O-Rust and the Home brewed V/C/S mix concerning the acids effect on good metal (and not just the rust), put a small sample of each fluid in a jar. Add a few pennies to each, and toss in another item made of clean raw steel, results will vary with the proximity of the steel parts & the pennies, the effect will be more dramtic if they are touching. Let it sit overnight and have a close look at the pennies and steel parts, post your results here.
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Re: Rust removal recipe ! works great! cheap to make!!
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12/24/09 08:39 PM
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