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Cutting 4 speed input shaft #535817 11/24/09 08:53 PM 11/24/09 08:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana W5Duster436 OP master
W5Duster436 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana	It appears I am going to have to take off about .500 from my trans input shaft to work with this crank. Is this something that any reputable machine shop should be able to do? '70 Duster - SDSS 436 W5 4spd (Gone) '71 Dodge D100 '70 Dodge W100

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: W5Duster436] #535818 11/24/09 09:04 PM 11/24/09 09:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 117 Muskegon Mi D dcr member
dcr member D Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 117 Muskegon Mi	I have a trans here that looks like it was done with a hacksaw or cut off wheel and beveled with a grinder was in car for many years with no problems but you will need proper pilot bushing I believe there is a p/n in the tech archives and it is still available through mopar

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: dcr] #535819 11/24/09 09:09 PM 11/24/09 09:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,848 poplar bluff mo. T toplescuda I Whine
toplescuda I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,848 poplar bluff mo.	i did mine with a grinder tapered back the edges all is good 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: W5Duster436] #535820 11/24/09 09:16 PM 11/24/09 09:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	I chopped my 18 spline off with a cutoff wheel then dressed it with a grinder. You can get bushing BR287 from Napa to make it all work. Sheldon

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: RUNCHARGER] #535821 11/24/09 09:22 PM 11/24/09 09:22 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,325 Truckville, the capital of NY 85_Ram_4speed master
85_Ram_4speed master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,325 Truckville, the capital of NY	Quote: I chopped my 18 spline off with a cutoff wheel then dressed it with a grinder. You can get bushing BR287 from Napa to make it all work. Sheldon Or get the input bearing for a mid-late 90's truck 5 speed (dealer part# 53009180AB). It fits into the crank where the hub of the torque converter normally is. It taps in with a hammer and has a nice roller bearing with a rubber seal lip on it to keep the garbage out. Best thing is, it works great for shortened input shafts as it rides farther back than where the normal bushing rides. Good luck. Outcast Dodge guy.

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: W5Duster436] #535822 11/24/09 09:28 PM 11/24/09 09:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana W5Duster436 OP master
W5Duster436 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana	Wayne had already given me the correct bushing as my input shaft was worn a bit on the end. Good to go there but just want to make sure a machine shop can cut it without taking the trans apart. I don't trust myself doing it that's for sure.. '70 Duster - SDSS 436 W5 4spd (Gone) '71 Dodge D100 '70 Dodge W100

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: W5Duster436] #535823 11/24/09 09:46 PM 11/24/09 09:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio	You can cut it with a cut-off wheel and dress it with an angle grinder when done.No big deal I had to cut my Richmond shaft because the Eagle cranks are not drilled deep enough(mine wasn't anyway) Gus 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: W5Duster436] #535824 11/24/09 09:47 PM 11/24/09 09:47 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	No machine shop required. I've seen some that look like a drunk monkey cut them. Not even close to square and they ran fine. Just dress/bevel the leading edge and you're fine

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: RobX4406] #535825 11/24/09 10:01 PM 11/24/09 10:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana W5Duster436 OP master
W5Duster436 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana	I may have a drunk monkey around here somewhere. '70 Duster - SDSS 436 W5 4spd (Gone) '71 Dodge D100 '70 Dodge W100

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: RobX4406] #535826 11/24/09 10:16 PM 11/24/09 10:16 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,628 Columbus, Ohio wheelsup68dart master
wheelsup68dart master Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,628 Columbus, Ohio	Quote: No machine shop required. I've seen some that look like a drunk monkey cut them. Not even close to square and they ran fine. Just dress/bevel the leading edge and you're fine Agreed, "hicup" I did my own with cutoff wheel and grinder and all is well, does not need to be scienced out or that precise.

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: wheelsup68dart] #535827 11/26/09 08:38 PM 11/26/09 08:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana W5Duster436 OP master
W5Duster436 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana	Well finally got out in the garage today after downing some turkey and stuck a dowel rod down to the crank and measured. It was exactly 9" to the back of the bellhousing and from the surface of the trans to the tip of the input shaft was a tad over 8 so there is enough space. Just can't figure out what could have been keeping it from going all the way in other than the adapter ring on the trans to fit the larger hole on the lakewood. Went right in the last time though.. '70 Duster - SDSS 436 W5 4spd (Gone) '71 Dodge D100 '70 Dodge W100

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: W5Duster436] #535828 11/27/09 01:39 AM 11/27/09 01:39 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,207 Menomonee Falls DemonDust master
DemonDust master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,207 Menomonee Falls	Did the clutch maybe move? I had this happen to me once. I fought and fought with the trans on my chest trying to get it all the way in, it just wouldn't go. Finally after I was so angry I decided to check the alignment...... It was off by a hair... Trans went right in after that..... SDG Motorsports Hellcat Demon and Redeye Supercharger CNC Porting https://www.sdgmotorsports.com/

Re: Cutting 4 speed input shaft [Re: DemonDust] #535829 11/27/09 11:26 AM 11/27/09 11:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana W5Duster436 OP master
W5Duster436 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana	Quote: Did the clutch maybe move? I had this happen to me once. I fought and fought with the trans on my chest trying to get it all the way in, it just wouldn't go. Finally after I was so angry I decided to check the alignment...... It was off by a hair... Trans went right in after that..... Well I had thought that too but it is only 1/4 - 3/8" from going all the way in. It would have already been through both discs at that point. I am going to check the adapter ring today to make sure the holding washer didn't go over the edge or something silly. '70 Duster - SDSS 436 W5 4spd (Gone) '71 Dodge D100 '70 Dodge W100

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