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HEMI Shootout [Re: meanfish] #521141
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Roll call for all SS/AH cars going to Bowling Green , NHRA Hot Rod Reunion.

Re: 2010 schedule [Re: meanfish] #521142
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warford is a maybe car still for sale

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If you go to the thread with the CCEvents pics #6 is a nice shot of Jerry Lower's outstanding Hemi S/S Barracuda. Jerry put some older Barton and Indy stuff together and has it flying, I saw him go 9.12 at C-Bus.

Hey Frito, why don't you buy Mel's car and I'll drive it for you.

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Mel Warford told me the Super Cuda would have to come off the side. I think I could have won over Randy, But!!! David Hakim drove my Challenger last year with a monster burn out and I was surprised how calm I was, even watched from the bleachers. So, who knows.

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Frito, call us when you're ready to step up the Challenger. Our good friend Dave Weber at Modern Muscle along with Mancini Racing can put more steam in that LC.

Here's my Daytona after our head and cam swap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7XHL0lXDcM

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Maple Grove points meet [Re: David Hakim] #521146
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Any Hemi Challenge cars going besides the RBRE cars?

Re: HEMI Shootout [Re: moprod] #521147
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Roll call for all SS/AH cars going to Bowling Green , NHRA Hot Rod Reunion.




I have a schedule conflict and will miss this one. Motor out for new design anyway.


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Fender covers? [Re: Spyphish] #521148
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I have seen a lot of SS/AH cars that have custom fender and front covers while working on them in the pits. I am assuming they are going to an upholstery shop or seamstress to have them made. What material have others used and is there anyone out there that specializes in making the covers?

Re: Fender covers? [Re: Greg] #521149
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Check with Ben at Holt Race Cars. His upolstery guy made mine which snaps to buttons on inner fender. Soft on underside and rugged on the outer which just wipes clean. Really nice and handy. Good luck.

PS One of the cheaper components on the car. Ha!


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Re: Fender covers? [Re: Spyphish] #521150
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Spyphish,

Do you have any shots of the cover on or off the car?

Thanks

Re: Fender covers? [Re: Greg] #521151
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Is the SS/AH fad over? This thread appears dead. Just a couple of years ago there were tons of new cars being built, shootouts all over and lots of smack talk from various engine builders. NHRA is having a shootout on a big stage at the NHRR and no one seems to care. Perkins debuted his new car lastweek and no one has mentioned it. Cars are for sale that were just built a few years ago. Has the ultra quick times by a few ruined the class or is something else like the economy? I'm just curious what everyone thinks.


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Re: Fender covers? [Re: Troublemaker427] #521152
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Has the ultra quick times by a few ruined the class? I'm just curious what everyone thinks.




I think that may have something to do with it.

Re: Fender covers? [Re: Troublemaker427] #521153
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Jody, Great question. Everything was great when the cars were running 8.70-9.00 e.t.'s. Just about anyone could qualify and be competitive. Try a new convertor or gear here and there and adjust valves once in a while. Now with CW and RBRE turning 10,000 you might get 10 runs before a rebuild or dropped valve, broken rod etc. and you have Pro Stock style maintenance and costs. Will the car construction market correct itself like the housing market? How can you justify a used SS/AH car less motor and trans, costing more than a used Pro Stock roller? It costs between 75k and 125k+ to put a cage, 4-link and modified k, in one of these cars now. Finish it off with a 75k+ motor, and Bucky paint(tuki's the man) and you are at 250k+, and then go shopping for a toter and stacker! All the players are financially independent to start with but now instead of being in their 40's, most are 50-60 and between round thrashes are left up to guys like CW jr. and maybe Dave Barton. Eveyrone else loads the car up and heads over to Darrel Marvels for the Filets.(thanks Darrel) Without CW jr., Bucky, Jeff at Modern, and Dave Barton on this site it was a long, cold lonely winter and slow spring. No one talked about the new Perkins/Jenkins debut, or the record holding RBRE car hurting the new motor at Maple Grove last week. I'm hoping that CW jr., RBRE, Joe Clark (Bucky), and Jeff at Modern are thrashing and have no time to post here and that there will be 20 cars at the next shootout. I know that unless there is more traffic here on this site about who is and who isn't going to the shootouts I won't be booking any rooms.

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Re: Fender covers? [Re: BOSSHEMI] #521154
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Jody, Great question. Everything was great when the cars were running 8.70-9.00 e.t.'s. Just about anyone could qualify and be competitive. Try a new convertor or gear here and there and adjust valves once in a while. Now with CW and RBRE turning 10,000 you might get 10 runs before a rebuild or dropped valve, broken rod etc. and you have Pro Stock style maintenance and costs. Will the car construction market correct itself like the housing market? How can you justify a used SS/AH car less motor and trans, costing more than a used Pro Stock roller? It costs between 75k and 125k+ to put a cage, 4-link and modified k, in one of these cars now. Finish it off with a 75k+ motor, and Bucky paint(tuki's the man) and you are at 250k+, and then go shopping for a toter and stacker! All the players are financially independent to start with but now instead of being in their 40's, most are 50-60 and between round thrashes are left up to guys like CW jr. and maybe Dave Barton. Eveyrone else loads the car up and heads over to Darrel Marvels for the Filets.(thanks Darrel) Without CW jr., Bucky, Jeff at Modern, and Dave Barton on this site it was a long, cold lonely winter and slow spring. No one talked about the new Perkins/Jenkins debut, or the record holding RBRE car hurting the new motor at Maple Grove last week. I'm hoping that CW jr., RBRE, Joe Clark (Bucky), and Jeff at Modern are thrashing and have no time to post here and that there will be 20 cars at the next shootout. I know that unless there is more traffic here on this site about who is and who isn't going to the shootouts I won't be booking any rooms.

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All good points that have merit to a certain degree but a lot of people lost interest in following the SS/AH races after experiencing the attitudes of the racers and engine builders involved as well as it just becomming a battle of the "bucks".There just didn't seem to be anyone that stood out and became the "hero" to cheer for.Don't get me wrong,I admire the effort that some put out and the innovative developments That CJ and Barton camp were doing.I had met CJ and he was as close to becomming the guy that I admired in the class and know Don Bales as a great person personally and wished him all the success.Many of the others are equally great people,but the attitude displayed by some who thought that they were "in a class above all others" or were demeaning in their responses to fans and racers certainly play a part as to why the"flock of followers and interest in the Hemi races" has deminished.I feel(only my opinion)that if these SS/AH racers and builders would follow in the footsteps of all the great "Hemi Heros" that we all remember(quite well) from years past they would have the following and support of many fans and racers.We all want heros to look up to,where have they all gone?As for me I will always remember the great ones and hold those memories close and try to emmulate all their traits that made them outstanding individuals in those days.I still remember sitting around a camp fire with Dyno Don,Hubert Platt,Malcom Durham and some others listening to their stragity on how they were going to whoop azz on Sox and a few other Mopar racers.Not knowing where my loyality was they talked freely and I carried that info promptly to the Mopar camp.The next day was highlited by the biggest,longest staging show down in history each racer trying to burn the other guy down and multipal burn outs through the rosin,each playing the same game.The staging show was better than the actual race.This may have lead to todays"courtisity staging rules.Back then you nodded your head when the flagmen pointed in your direction.So if you see me sitting in my rocker with a smile on my face,I'am just remembering that day at that little backwoods dragstrip and the "racing heros putting on the show" for the fans.

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I think BG has hit it spot on. I used to make the trek down to Belle Rose but tired of seeing one guy win all the races. Now I just wait for the Teutons and Spyfish to come up to Ennis and chat with some Cajuns here. No mudbug cookouts though. Joe Jr. is winning races with 9.0s and an old bracket motor instead of pouring money into PS engines with Hemi valve covers. I noticed Raybourn got rid of the SS car and now is running a Stocker. Sign of the times and economics.


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I think BG has hit it spot on. I used to make the trek down to Belle Rose but tired of seeing one guy win all the races. Now I just wait for the Teutons and Spyfish to come up to Ennis and chat with some Cajuns here. No mudbug cookouts though. Joe Jr. is winning races with 9.0s and an old bracket motor instead of pouring money into PS engines with Hemi valve covers. I noticed Raybourn got rid of the SS car and now is running a Stocker. Sign of the times and economics.




I don't mean any disrespect to anyone,but when you can get a personal relationship or build respect for a person or team you can champion their efforts and support them.I hate NASCAR but was so influnced by Somkey Yunick when I was younger that When I found out they were honoring him at the "last race of the century"(millinium) I made arrangements to fly to Alanta and get full axcess passes to just get to see him,shake his hand and tell him how much I respected him.The pictures of me shaking his hand is like a treasure to me and hangs on the shop wall.I'am so honored by having spent the time with Smokey and how receptive he was to me,that I will always cherish that moment with him.He died not longer after that.

Re: Hemi Shootouts [Re: B G Racing] #521157
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I have travled all over this country to see these HEMI cars.
From my perspective things have changed rather quickly.

Around 10 years ago i started really getting interested in the SS/AH class.
My father, brother and I would drive all night long to Indy to see the race.
We would watch the shootout and then drive back home.
It was the best thing ever! I waited all year for that 1 day.
Although i hated driving for 2 days, it was worth it just for those couple of hours.
I would talk to all of the drivers, and my favorite was Bucky!
About 4 years ago i met Lil Joe Teuton. This changed everything!
In my mind this is what Bob George is talking about.
Him and I talked for hours, and he ended up winning class at that race.
He let me be in the winner circle with him when they took pics.
Since then i have flown all over the country to be there when he races.
He and I are like flamily now, i have stayed in his house for a week at a time.
He has made the races fun for me again!
And at any race he shows up at, i feel he can win it.

Now it seems like this class only wants to be like * look at me, look at me *
They only show up to race where a shootout is.
I dont like that.
Joe is trying to win a national championship in an SS/AH car.

For the first time in many years, i dont think my family and I are going to Indy for the shootout.
It is not what it used to be.

Thanks Lil Joe and everyone else who made this class wonderful!

I hope 1 day it gets back to where its fun again.

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I have had a blast the first year and all the racers have been super nice. Still fun.. I know Rains, myself and Comella will not make it. Jim Pancake is running, the Camos will be there. I see where Wolk and Hard were probably rained out in Il. I bet they go to BG. Lets hope they get a good turnout. I would go if I could. SLH


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BG,
Your post is once again right on. But you did leave out a couple of the most friendly and accesable guys in this class, Stephen Hebert and Mel Warford. They both seem to be "happy to be there".

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BG,
Your post is once again right on. But you did leave out a couple of the most friendly and accesable guys in this class, Stephen Hebert and Mel Warford. They both seem to be "happy to be there".




Frito,I wasn't demeaning,disrespecting or leaving anyone out,I mentioned only a few of the "new hemi racers that I was familiar with".To mention all the great good ones would take too much space.Landy,Sox,Jake,Faubal,Flynn,Stiles,Strickler,Montgumery, and on and on,great racers and great people and friendly and approachable.

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