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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jrwoodjoe] #519285
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Great pics showing the progress. WOW, you are a brave man. I don't think I could have tackled that but it looks like you are doing a FANTASTIC job with it. Looking forward to more pics.

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Thanks Joe, I'm sure you could tackle it. It just took some time thinking about things like:
What the heck else do I need to be doing(that can't wait)
I bleed alot from other stuff too!
My wife probably loves me enough for this.?
Surely they make a tool for this.
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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: kb73rr] #519286
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You're doing an amazing job! You are definitely saving one that many people would consider too far gone. So much the better when you're done.

I have one question. Hopefully it won't open up a can of worms. Are you using the POR15 self-etching primer (spray) or the brush on stuff?

I had a lot of sheet metal work done on my car including a bunch of rust repair fabrications just like you're doing. The guy who did the work was well regarded pro with about 20 years experience. He does some very high dollar cars including a number of Autorama show winners. Every last millimeter of bare metal got cleaned with skotchbrite, rinsed and wiped, then coated with SEM self-etching primer. The skotchbrite and rinse had to be done within minutes of spraying the primer. He said it was the only way to guarantee it wouldn't rust. Five years later and none of the work he did shows any indications of rust.

I did my front and back bumper mounts/supports myself. I used POR15. I did the front ones before I learned about the SEM, and didn't use it. I did the back the same way he did with the scotchbrite, rinse and SEM before the POR. That was also 5 years ago, and the car has never been caught in anything worse than a light drizzle since. The back still looks 100% perfect, the front is showing a little rust. That just my personal experience. Your results may vary ha ha ha.

Anyhow - here is a big pat on the back for your work and thanks for your time posting it!



I'm currently doing an experiment with SEM rust converter to find out just how long we have after grinding to bare metal before the rust starts to take hold. I'll post with conclusions.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519287
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So I had the trunk floor in and the tail light panel was sitting in corner looking totalled. I don't mind spending a couple bucks when needed, but I don't like to waste them! I figured with all the work it's taken to get the aftermarket stuff installed , I'd better give this panel a shot. Much to my delight, it's not that tough. Take your time and make it happen! The repop stuff is great when you don't have an option but if yours looks marginal, fix it. The more I get into this project the more it becomes apparent that you can fix almost anything.

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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519288
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More to come.

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Yep, more.

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I love pizza

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Yep

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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519292
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Bad huh?

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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519293
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It sure looked broken to me!

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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519294
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Got to working on it instead of staring wild eyed and thinking I can't afford this.

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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519295
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Worked more.

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It kept happening. More work.

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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519297
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More but it's getting easier!

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Metal rocks!

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Cut it off and weld on a new one!

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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519300
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It sure is hard to come up with something to say every post!

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I have to go in to my family now, but I'll be back soon. Thank you all for your support!

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Just a quick note. I sandblasted the heck out of most of the parts shown in my posts. The trick to not warping the part is to slow down the air speed. I did alot of experimenting with sand blasting due to the huge amount of posts claiming total destruction of panels from heat. It is not the heat! The speed at which the sand hits the metal has to be slowed to a point that ti does not "peen" it. Sand being thrown at metal at a high rate of speed has the same effect as a whole bunch of little dudes beating on the panel with little dude hammers! I saw first hand what happens with high velocity sand blasting on metal. It warps from the "hammer effect" not heat.Food for thought.

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Awesome project thread, I am really enjoying following along

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519304
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Do you have a pic of the tool you are using for grinding the welds down. You are doing awesome work.

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