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Re: New Best - and through the mufflers too [Re: an8sec70cuda] #518696
11/09/09 12:39 PM
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You and your car are impressive, as always. I'm curious though, your 60' is WAY fast for the et and the mph a little low. Maybe too much gear or converter?

Just wondering. Congrats on the new best.


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Re: New Best - and through the mufflers too [Re: nhramark] #518697
11/09/09 12:49 PM
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Mark,
I just don't know. This car has always showed better ET than the mph indicates. In the present combo, I have the shift light at 6500 rpm, and cross the finish line about 6900. When I changed from the 4.56 gears to the 4.30 gears, nothing changed (sixty foot, ET or mph) just lowered the finish line rpm. When I took the 5400 rpm 8" converter out and put in a 5400 9", it runs exactly the same.

I think the chassis is making good use of the horsepower/torque available to run those ETs. Then again, many people at this ET are running 2-speed transmissions and killing their starting line ratio. In the summer, it would run 1.27, 9.35, 140 mph. This fall weather (cool, dry, high baro) with the Ron's injection is making insane sixty foot times!

Then again, maybe it is the flat tappet solid lifter cam that makes better torque, but not horsepower, than a roller cam...

Re: New Best - and through the mufflers too [Re: 440Jim] #518698
11/09/09 04:29 PM
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Mark,
I think the chassis is making good use of the horsepower/torque available to run those ETs.




I couldn't agree more on that! You are a little over 100 lbs heavier than my setup, which may explain the mph. I am just amazed at your 60' times though.

A good sixty for me is 1.28, 9 teens and 9.20's at 146 mph are typical. I would love to drag my car out to your track someday to run in those atmospheric conditions! 3000 ft of elevation and high humidity is not uncommon here.

My guess is there are a lot of NHRA/IHRA Stock class racers who are glad you run brackets, you really get the most out of your combo.


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Re: New Best - and through the mufflers too [Re: nhramark] #518699
11/09/09 06:16 PM
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I've been wondering with a 511 RACE motor why you're not running a roller camshaft?

Re: New Best - and through the mufflers too [Re: Otherlane] #518700
11/09/09 06:23 PM
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I've been wondering with a 511 RACE motor why you're not running a roller camshaft?



Jim has a winner there, and about the fastest flat tappet combo I have heard of. Two good reasons to not change. A third and forth, expense and maintenance.


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Re: New Best - and through the mufflers too [Re: gregsdart] #518701
11/09/09 10:32 PM
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By the way, curious just what your front/rear weights are?


I dug out the log book from 2004 when I found a track with a scale that was pretty flat driving on and off. So I put the front wheels on then the total, then the backs only:

Front: 1768
Rear : 1400

It is even worse now since I don't use the 5 gallon fuel cell in the trunk, but rather a 4 gallon in the front for the mechanical pump on the injection. Plus I gained some weight since then, etc. for the total now with me at 3210.

428RR,
I have been running solid lifter cams (flat tappet) forever. I already had the push rods, springs, cam, dist drive, etc. so changing to a roller cost more money. Maybe someday, but it won't be a spring killing agressive roller if I ever do.

I lost count how many years I ran my old Scott Brown cam and lifters. I put the current CC cam in the car in 2008. I still have the cam and lifters from that build for my "back up" (spare parts) motor. It was 272/280 at 0.050" and I ran it in everything from my 451 to my 511 CID.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: New Best - and through the mufflers too [Re: 440Jim] #518702
11/10/09 07:28 PM
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Awesome, and awesome year, contgrats. 60 ft is incredible....

Re: New Best - and through the mufflers too [Re: 440Jim] #518703
11/10/09 07:44 PM
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Congrats Jim... you have that corn burner running

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