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Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: Crizila] #516400
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WOW, those DUI distrabators are pretty spendy.. Seems like I looked at them but was put off by the price.....




DUI= "Driving under the influence", that can get pretty pricey

BTW, whats a "distrabator"




What we call distributors after a couple of beers.......


Yes, they are pricey. That's why I'm interested in exactly what is in the $72.00 unit he purchased on E-bay. Tip: Make sure the 12vlt wire to the distributor is directly off the alternator charge wire so you get the highest voltage available to the distributor - they like 14 volts. I run mine through a relay and use the ignition run wire from the column ignition switch to fire the relay.




Does it say they like 14 volts? I would think a solid 12 would be sufficent, running a relay is a good idea, i might just do that.


75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: joedust451] #516401
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All ignitions like 14 V more than 12 volts, More spark.

Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: Challenger 1] #516402
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What is the advantage? I though HEI dists were limited to around 5000 RPMS?




Where have you been, Factory GM HEIs can go upworks of 7K stock (if not more), with some better components like coil & module, they can see 10K. Like mentioned earlier, the HEI was the best factory ignition out there of its time, non-better.


75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: joedust451] #516403
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What is the advantage? I though HEI dists were limited to around 5000 RPMS?




Where have you been, Factory GM HEIs can go upworks of 7K stock (if not more), with some better components like coil & module, they can see 10K. Like mentioned earlier, the HEI was the best factory ignition out there of its time, non-better.




OK, I would hate to have that ugly dist in my Mopar engine bay though.
What's wrong with a factory mopar ignition? Too many connections and components?

Guess I have been lucky with mine.

Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: Challenger 1] #516404
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I though HEI dists were limited to around 5000 RPMS? What's wrong with a factory mopar ignition? Too many connections and components?


(1) Yes I've read that the oe hei gm setups were limited to ~5K but not because of the excellent module (the coil iirc ). (2) yes too many cluttered comonents and people wanting to experiment . I am just going to mount an hei module under my Mopar dist (gotta hide it ). It's an aftermarket piece that was given to me so that's my excuse


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Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: joedust451] #516405
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WOW, those DUI distrabators are pretty spendy.. Seems like I looked at them but was put off by the price.....




DUI= "Driving under the influence", that can get pretty pricey

BTW, whats a "distrabator"




What we call distributors after a couple of beers.......


Yes, they are pricey. That's why I'm interested in exactly what is in the $72.00 unit he purchased on E-bay. Tip: Make sure the 12vlt wire to the distributor is directly off the alternator charge wire so you get the highest voltage available to the distributor - they like 14 volts. I run mine through a relay and use the ignition run wire from the column ignition switch to fire the relay.




Does it say they like 14 volts? I would think a solid 12 would be sufficent, running a relay is a good idea, i might just do that.


The original GM HEI's were rpm limited, but they have come a long way since then with modules and coils. Some pluses include a big cap for less chance of spark arcing and an easily adjustable advance curve as the springs and weights are easily accessable. Here is a pic of my set up. The red wire coming from the alt goes to a relay ( 40 amp bosch unit purchased at Radio Shack - just to the left of the voltage reg.) and then to the dist. No room problem with B bodies

5589614-eng1.jpg (34 downloads)

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Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: Crizila] #516406
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Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: JD340] #516407
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If it looks anything like this, you should be pretty happy with it. We finally put one in Dad's 69 Dart 318 this summer. Starts better, easy install,stable timing, and 12 volts to coil! When I get a couple bucks together, the Aspen is gonna get one too.




Does it use a stock application cap?

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Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: Challenger 1] #516408
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What is the advantage? I though HEI dists were limited to around 5000 RPMS?




Where have you been, Factory GM HEIs can go upworks of 7K stock (if not more), with some better components like coil & module, they can see 10K. Like mentioned earlier, the HEI was the best factory ignition out there of its time, non-better.




OK, I would hate to have that ugly dist in my Mopar engine bay though.
What's wrong with a factory mopar ignition? Too many connections and components?

Guess I have been lucky with mine.




To each his own, mopar dizzy's ain't any better, i've paid big bucks for the MP kit & had nothing but issues too, the orange box ain't worth a hoot ($$ down the drian right there) & most of them need re-curved anyways, plus they don't have the spark output a factory GM HEI does, just 1 simple hookup & your off, no ballast, no ext. coil, no crappy ECU box, i like my chevys too, just like Mopars, who knows, i may transplant a BB chevy in it one day lol "JK"

Well here it is.




75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: Crizila] #516409
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What wires are you useing?


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Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: joedust451] #516410
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What wires are you useing?


The red wire from the alternator is 12 gauge. I used the 14 gauge blue ( on my car - might not be the same for your application ) wire originating from the ignition switch to trigger the relay. The short black wire is the ground for the relay. You can use any wire that is hot in the run position to trigger (close) the relay. The module in your pic looks very familiar. Can't remember who's it is, but I ran a very similar looking module in a small block Chevy stroker motor some years back. You definitely can not run a stock HEI coil with that module. You will smoke the coil for sure. You might want to pop the coil cover just to see if it looks like an after market coil. The dist shaft looks a little shorter than mine also - no big deal there. Hope it works good for you.


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Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: Crizila] #516411
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What wires are you useing?


The red wire from the alternator is 12 gauge. I used the 14 gauge blue ( on my car - might not be the same for your application ) wire originating from the ignition switch to trigger the relay. The short black wire is the ground for the relay. You can use any wire that is hot in the run position to trigger (close) the relay. The module in your pic looks very familiar. Can't remember who's it is, but I ran a very similar looking module in a small block Chevy stroker motor some years back. You definitely can not run a stock HEI coil with that module. You will smoke the coil for sure. You might want to pop the coil cover just to see if it looks like an after market coil. The dist shaft looks a little shorter than mine also - no big deal there. Hope it works good for you.




Yeah, i know i'd have to match up the coil/module if ever it comes to that, it is a Proform unit, hopefully it has the proper coil in it for the module, the guy told me it'll accept all GM components, coil/module/vacuum pod/cap/rotor ect. The shaft may look alittle short because the cap is so big, i'm sure it'll be fine, my only concern is firewall clearance.

BTW, i was asking about the spark plugs wires, which ones are you useing?

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75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: Ebay HEI distributors? [Re: joedust451] #516412
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What wires are you useing?


The red wire from the alternator is 12 gauge. I used the 14 gauge blue ( on my car - might not be the same for your application ) wire originating from the ignition switch to trigger the relay. The short black wire is the ground for the relay. You can use any wire that is hot in the run position to trigger (close) the relay. The module in your pic looks very familiar. Can't remember who's it is, but I ran a very similar looking module in a small block Chevy stroker motor some years back. You definitely can not run a stock HEI coil with that module. You will smoke the coil for sure. You might want to pop the coil cover just to see if it looks like an after market coil. The dist shaft looks a little shorter than mine also - no big deal there. Hope it works good for you.




Yeah, i know i'd have to match up the coil/module if ever it comes to that, it is a Proform unit, hopefully it has the proper coil in it for the module, the guy told me it'll accept all GM components, coil/module/vacuum pod/cap/rotor ect. The shaft may look alittle short because the cap is so big, i'm sure it'll be fine, my only concern is firewall clearance.

BTW, i was asking about the spark plugs wires, which ones are you useing?


I'm using D.U.I. "fire wires". They are 8MM, and come pre-made with heat resistant jackets.


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