Re: Hemi intake/carb choices-Stage V or other
[Re: JohnRR]
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ScottSmith_Harms
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John, last time I checked you chimed in simply to make a negative comment about my post, did you have any of your own suggestions to add to the thread or were YOU simply looking for an arguement? Sorry my post didn't pass your critique What is it that you always say?......Oh yea Pot meet Kettle
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Re: Hemi intake/carb choices-Stage V or other
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/03/09 09:56 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms
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I agree John, if your heads up there you should try removing that as well. My previous post on the other thread was a joke, get it? As far as opinions go, well, as I've said before, we all have them, just because I post mine doesn't mean that you or anyone else has to agree on them. Bottom line is that you jumped on this thread for no other reason than to make a negative comment about my post yet didn't offer one of your own. I didn't ATTACK your post, I challenged it, big difference. I suggest that we let this guy has have his thread back ok? Call me if you still feel we need to "chat"
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Re: Hemi intake/carb choices-Stage V or other
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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11/03/09 09:58 PM
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Bottom line is that you jumped on this thread for no other reason than to make a negative comment about my post yet didn't offer one of your own. That's just plain old CS IMO.
Once again , reading is fundaMENTAL ... look again at my first post in this thread ... NOTHING about you or your post ... you were the one who challenged me , as you did everyone else that offered a different opinion than your own .
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Re: Hemi intake/carb choices-Stage V or other
[Re: torkrules]
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11/03/09 11:01 PM
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I had pretty much the same Hyd cam in my hemi chally, only 426 .030 over. I had stock 69 hemi carbs & stock ported intake. Ran ok & mileage was pretty good w/ progressive linkage. Went 60 over in April w/ Solid Bullet cam, around 590 lift w/ the Landy rockers, Stage 5 intake w/ 2 Eddy 600's. 1:1 linkage. Noticed a lot more power up top. Maybe I could use more CFM, but at 5000ft, the 600's seem to work fine. John Arruzza says the Vanke mod he does makes for a great street performer w/ milder hyd cam. Another plus for the stock setup is you don't have to buy a drop base plate to make the stage 5 fit an air grabber hood. Some run two different heat range plugs to compensate for the stock intake's unequal runner lengths, so that may be a consideration, too. Stock appearance is important to me, so I was concerned about the Stage 5's higher runners, but the Shaker covers up most of it, so its really not an issue for me.
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Re: Hemi intake/carb choices-Stage V or other
[Re: RUNCHARGER]
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11/04/09 06:14 AM
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So: Two of us have run the stock intake vs. the Stage V on the same engine. Anyone else with hands on experience?
Sheldon
Thanks for all of the input everyone. Lots of options to consider. If anyone else has anything I'd like to hear your opinion, especially if you went from a single 4 barrel to something else. The only thing I cant run is the single plane 4 barrel intake as it is too high to clear the stock hood/air grabber.
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Re: Hemi intake/carb choices-Stage V or other
[Re: Triggerfish]
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11/04/09 06:17 AM
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I had pretty much the same Hyd cam in my hemi chally, only 426 .030 over. I had stock 69 hemi carbs & stock ported intake. Ran ok & mileage was pretty good w/ progressive linkage. Went 60 over in April w/ Solid Bullet cam, around 590 lift w/ the Landy rockers, Stage 5 intake w/ 2 Eddy 600's. 1:1 linkage. Noticed a lot more power up top. Maybe I could use more CFM, but at 5000ft, the 600's seem to work fine. John Arruzza says the Vanke mod he does makes for a great street performer w/ milder hyd cam. Another plus for the stock setup is you don't have to buy a drop base plate to make the stage 5 fit an air grabber hood. Some run two different heat range plugs to compensate for the stock intake's unequal runner lengths, so that may be a consideration, too. Stock appearance is important to me, so I was concerned about the Stage 5's higher runners, but the Shaker covers up most of it, so its really not an issue for me.
How did you find it for torque compared to the stocker? Any stumbling or flat spots on either?
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Re: Hemi intake/carb choices-Stage V or other
[Re: hemi471]
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11/04/09 08:13 AM
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My vote is the Stage V with two Quick fuel 750!
Well said, and many others have also come to the same conclusion. You can make any carb or carbs work, but for all out street performance, that will get it done the best, but its not the cheapest. Its the time & money spent on the learning curve you can't get back. I also had a rat roaster in many configs and some other intakes. If your not going to spend the $1500 for the 2 custom built 750cfm HOLLEY style carbs, and the better Stage V intake, your not going to be very happy. Its a fact that many of the out of the box carbs just don't work until you do a lot of work to them. That's why the best two choices so far are that and the M1 dual plane with a single QF1050 4150 style Holley....Only thing better than either of those, provided you have the hood clearance is a dominator and a single plane intake or EFI....I went with the later.
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Re: Hemi intake/carb choices-Stage V or other
[Re: torkrules]
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11/05/09 11:57 PM
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Triggerfish
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I had pretty much the same Hyd cam in my hemi chally, only 426 .030 over. I had stock 69 hemi carbs & stock ported intake. Ran ok & mileage was pretty good w/ progressive linkage. Went 60 over in April w/ Solid Bullet cam, around 590 lift w/ the Landy rockers, Stage 5 intake w/ 2 Eddy 600's. 1:1 linkage. Noticed a lot more power up top. Maybe I could use more CFM, but at 5000ft, the 600's seem to work fine. John Arruzza says the Vanke mod he does makes for a great street performer w/ milder hyd cam. Another plus for the stock setup is you don't have to buy a drop base plate to make the stage 5 fit an air grabber hood. Some run two different heat range plugs to compensate for the stock intake's unequal runner lengths, so that may be a consideration, too. Stock appearance is important to me, so I was concerned about the Stage 5's higher runners, but the Shaker covers up most of it, so its really not an issue for me.
How did you find it for torque compared to the stocker? Any stumbling or flat spots on either?
The Stage 5 build has more torque & power down low & up top, but the builds were a lot different, so its not a fair comparison. The stock intake & carbs had progressive linkage (mechanical distributor, smaller Comp hyd cam & wasn't built & tuned as well. The new build is 60 over (more cubes & better flow) & the solid cam is a lot larger. The 1st build pooped out at 5500, while the solid cam pulls hard to over 6500. I'd like to try the Quick Fuel or Pro Form Holleys, but I want more of a stock look. You also, must be sure the Stage 5 will fit your Air Grabber. I really recommend you give John Arruzza & Tim Banning a call. They're both great guys & have built a ton of Hemi's for many applications.
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