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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
#514776
11/03/09 09:19 AM
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lowell66dart
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Griner valve body in a 904. I start in third. Much easier to control my rpm's.
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2020 Challenger R/T Scat Widebody
2007 Charger R/T 5.7
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: 10 o to go]
#514777
11/03/09 09:25 AM
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racing 32 years 2nd to high set line lock crack the throttle to 6000 shift to 3rd .
However i do drive mine out hard like pro stocks up to the line in 3rd .That was with 904s and 727s. 
don
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
#514781
11/03/09 09:51 AM
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Atco NJ
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I have a Carbon fiber kevlar what ever shield over the trans.
do you have a stock drum?
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
#514782
11/03/09 09:51 AM
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I've heard for years to always start your automatic burnouts on first gear, then quickly switch over to 2nd from there on for the rest of the burnout.
I just started doing 2nd gear burnouts and every thing seems well, But........
Now my transmission builder, who is probably the best in the North East as far as 27's and 04's has scolded me for starting out in 2nd gear.
He said that it puts unnecessary strain on the 2nd gear bands aside from other parts in the box, so I should go back to my 1st gear burnouts immediately. What gives on others opinions?
Whos your transmission builder i could use a real good one..i've alway started my burnout in second get the tires spinning and shift to third..
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: MoparPitBull]
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11/03/09 10:38 AM
11/03/09 10:38 AM
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I always started in 2nd then go right to 3rd and decelerate out of the water and don't let the tires grab hard.
never had any problems that way.
67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119
68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: B G Racing]
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11/03/09 10:51 AM
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Bob_Coomer
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Starting a burn out in first gear is fine as long as you shift to second as soon as the tires start to spin.The common practice is to start in second and shift to high and ease off the throttle as you leave the burn out box.We do not go straight to the beams,but stop short put the trans in low gear and move forward at least 10 feet to set all  componants in correct directional motion(take out all slack)and allow all clutchs and valves to set in proper position.High RPMs and the low gear mutiplication of hi RPMs cause the drum to expire.
I do it this way, always have..Im glad I know its the prefered method of Bob George racing LOL. i dont know why but I always kick it in neutral, and clear the engine, drop it in low then pull forward turning the first staging beam on, then I go to neutral again (I dont know if this is good or not) clear the engine again while waiting for the other guy to pre stage, then I drop it in low again and proceed to stage.
IMO there is no reason to start the burn out in first gear. We Mopar guys know we have enough torque to get the tires spinning in 2nd...for a few reasons also..
#1 wheel/tire speed is what will heat the tires up the quickest.
#2 starting in 2nd gear builds the tire speed up quick but also limits the time in the burn out box, I always wood it after the tires get going go straight to high...This is a bunch quicker than shifting through 3 gears..
And not to mention people who have non low band apply valve bodies the sprag is vulnerable for failing and cause the drum to grenade.
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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11/03/09 12:47 PM
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Wheels up, MO
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I set my line lock and put the shifter in 3rd gear for the entire burnout, no shifting needed. I just get the tires up to speed, release the line lock, and power out of the water box. 727 with Griner billet trans brake.
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
#514791
11/03/09 02:14 PM
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Curtis Sr. over at a small garage in Brooklyn.
Doing transmissions since when the cases were made out of iron.
His # 917 602-4239. Curtis Sr.
Lee sent ya'
A few guys on here have there boxes done by him and are happy as I am.
Never had a problem. His 904's are trick.
The 27's are super trick.
Well alright then Pablo was telling me how good Curtis jr. was with them...
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
#514793
11/03/09 03:05 PM
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2nd & 3rd gear only! Still recall the 8 inch deep hole we put in Milan's starting line.
Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
#514794
11/03/09 03:10 PM
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B1KILLER
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Jr. is the Driver ace.
Sr. the Father is the transmission ace.
We'll all be at Atco this week end with every flavor of speed, 12 sec, 11 sec, and ........How's those Yankees doing?
Good luck @ Atco, let us know how it goes, I wiil be up for Shakedown Always loved your car , ever since I saw many moons ago 
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Re: contradictions, 1st or 2nd gear burnouts?
[Re: fullmetaljacket]
#514795
11/03/09 04:52 PM
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Jr. is the Driver ace.
Sr. the Father is the transmission ace.
We'll all be at Atco this week end with every flavor of speed, 12 sec, 11 sec, and ........How's those Yankees doing?
Your the one from N.Y. you tell me lol..Pablo suggested having Curtis do my 904 this offseason tell him i said HI! when you see him..Dave
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