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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
[Re: HEMICUDA]
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10/01/09 05:43 AM
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If you want a true OE appearance, paint the silver with a hangover and after you have a big fight with your wife to make sure it looks like a tourist did it.
Last edited by HEMICUDA; 10/01/09 04:02 PM.
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
[Re: HEMICUDA]
#51272
10/01/09 08:47 PM
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I cringe every time someone brings up repairing plastic with glues or fancy epoxies.
I would normally agree. However, this stuff fuses w/ the plastic. I made a couple of mounting tabs out of it that are as you say, stronger than the original. It needed to fully cure for it to be that strong. I also found the epoxy that is used to bond the panels on Corvettes to be amazing stuff too. You can use it for the same purpose. I am rather disappointed in your reaction to this though. It had worked well for me. Take my word for it or don't.
"There are only three real sports, Mountain climbing, Bull Fighting and Auto Racing. The rest are just games" - Earnest Hemmingway If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQJtN1_6DU
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
[Re: reno340]
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10/02/09 02:35 AM
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I cringe every time someone brings up repairing plastic with glues or fancy epoxies.
I would normally agree. However, this stuff fuses w/ the plastic. I made a couple of mounting tabs out of it that are as you say, stronger than the original. It needed to fully cure for it to be that strong. I also found the epoxy that is used to bond the panels on Corvettes to be amazing stuff too. You can use it for the same purpose. I am rather disappointed in your reaction to this though. It had worked well for me. Take my word for it or don't.
Point well taken. I’m just a little anal about introducing foreign materials to ABS plastic. I've used the 2 part 3M panel bond for panels, however, that product is used for overlapping panel and not for butting two pieces that are as thin as a plastic grille together. The idea is to repair any crack and make it indistinguishable from the top and bottom. As far as stronger, that doesn’t mean harder. Any method of repair that leaves the repaired area hard as a rock is prone to cracking again no question. Any ABS plastic repair done with ABS plastic, leaves the fused area supple again like it was when it was first made. A new ABS plastic part is not brittle, all the original 35+ year old parts all of us here repair are dried out and no where near what they were when they were new.
I’m not saying there’s not other ways to shin a cat, however, if it involves holding the pieces together instead of fusing, making the repaired area hard or the introduction of any kind of heat to the part than I’m not interested in the process.
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
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10/04/09 12:18 AM
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Some what off topic,I havent been able to find a NOS black ABS with argent painted trim 71 RR/GTX grill to go with my NOS headlight bezels.I ended up buying 5 NOS satellite grills untill I got one that was black not gray ABS.My plan is to remove the satelle silver paint to expose the black ABS then repaint the argent trim work. Whats the best way to remove the paint from ABS,Ive heard that soaking in brake fluid could work but feel it would soften the ABS,i was going to experiment with an old headlight bezel starting with very short soak times untill all the paint was removed then wash throughly,any shoure fire methouds for paint removel with out damaging the ABS. P.S. I'm also looking for a near mint 70/71 standered duster grill. 
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
[Re: 340SIX]
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10/04/09 11:59 AM
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I think that he is using the method of acetone and ABS shavings to make a paste. The method I am using works too. Mike has a lot of misconceptions about what I am using, but he has a way that works well for him (BTW, he does really nice work)and does not feel a need for change. After all if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I am using the plastic weld as I don't have any spare ABS lying around. It does a really nice repair and has vey similar characteristics of the surroundong ABS that it is fusing to. (It also is somewhat of a pain to go to the local salvage yard here)
"There are only three real sports, Mountain climbing, Bull Fighting and Auto Racing. The rest are just games" - Earnest Hemmingway If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQJtN1_6DU
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
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10/04/09 01:16 PM
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I use several methods to do grille repairs, but the chosen method depends on the type of repair being done. However, the ABS "paste" works best for 95% of the repairs I do. Other glues, epoxies, fiberglass, etc. may work as well, whatever floats your boat, as you suggested in regards to Mike, I use what has worked best for me over the years.
I can tell you this much, the crack repair portion of the job is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the entire repair job start to finish. The real work is in the final sanding and body work required to prep it for final paint. Some grilles that have been hit, warped, or badly cracked in complex shaped areas can be extremely difficult to bring back 100% (if not impossible). It's similar to body work on a car, it's all about the work you do BEFORE paint.
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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10/04/09 04:43 PM
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I can tell you this much, the crack repair portion of the job is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the entire repair job start to finish. The real work is in the final sanding and body work required to prep it for final paint. Some grilles that have been hit, warped, or badly cracked in complex shaped areas can be extremely difficult to bring back 100% (if not impossible). It's similar to body work on a car, it's all about the work you do BEFORE paint.
"There are only three real sports, Mountain climbing, Bull Fighting and Auto Racing. The rest are just games" - Earnest Hemmingway If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQJtN1_6DU
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
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10/04/09 08:41 PM
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Oven cleaner will take off the paint and leave the plastic unharmed.
I dissagree Tom, I watched a guy trash a 71 Cuda grille (same ABS that Duster Grilles are made of BTW) by using oven cleaner on it (he used Easy Off). It ate right in and softened the surface and it didn't take very long to do it either! You may get away with it if you are fast but it will eat the plastic if given enough time, try soaking some scrap grille parts in oven cleaner and you'll see.
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
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10/24/09 12:32 PM
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Re: Correct paint - Duster sharktooth grille ?
[Re: HEMICUDA]
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12/19/09 10:04 PM
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how is this for my initial try
"There are only three real sports, Mountain climbing, Bull Fighting and Auto Racing. The rest are just games" - Earnest Hemmingway If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQJtN1_6DU
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