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Cam Selection-472 hemi #497932 10/15/09 02:02 PM 10/15/09 02:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland C Crocker OP mopar
Crocker OP mopar C Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland	Please help me select a cam. Here are the Specs: -472 hemi (pro built- bullet proof) -stock hemi valve train -M/P aluminum heads -10.3: 1 cr -M1 dual plane intake (no choice- clearance) -B/G Mighty demon 850 annular carb -4 speed -3.54 rear -Stock Hemi exhaust manifolds with 2.5" exhaust (no choice - clearance)- pro flow mufflers I want to stay with stock type exhaust (no headers) because of the fast ratio steering arms and T/A style rear sway bar. Help me select a cam that will maximise a stock exhaust system. I would prefer hydraulic but would consider solid... again this is a street car.. E Body Any other suggestions will be appreciated Thanks Glenn

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497933 10/15/09 02:39 PM 10/15/09 02:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 209 Arkansas beatupcuda enthusiast
beatupcuda enthusiast Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 209 Arkansas	You'll want something in the 510-535 lift neighborhood, hyd flat or roller, big $$$ difference. Go to the Comp Cams site & pull up, select a cam, you fill out the blanks, and they will pick you one. I would love to have a bullet proof 472, where did that one come from

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: beatupcuda] #497934 10/15/09 04:01 PM 10/15/09 04:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland C Crocker OP mopar
Crocker OP mopar C Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland	The engine came from engine specialties in new jersey. There's a comp cam in it now. I'm pretty sure it's a 292 and I'm not sure it's right for my combination. It feels weak at the top end to me..... There were a few threads here lately about selecting the right cam (maybe old school) when you are using exhaust manifolds (not headers), and I want to make sure I got the right combination Feedback appreciated Glenn C

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497935 10/15/09 06:13 PM 10/15/09 06:13 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	roller cam for sure. mabey .620 on the intakes .610 on the exausts. keep the duration to about 240's at .050" on the intake, little more on the exaust. that would be a awesome cam for your combo. mabey check with ULTRADYNE. I'm sure they could come up with a cam like the above.

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi #497936 10/15/09 06:42 PM 10/15/09 06:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland C Crocker OP mopar
Crocker OP mopar C Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland	Don't really want to get into the expense of a roller cam. I'm sure there's a hydraulic flat tappet (preferably) or a solid that will work with stock adjustable rockers/ exhaust and will make good power.... and I'm not looking 650 hp.... maybe 525 to 550

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497937 10/15/09 06:58 PM 10/15/09 06:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon	Call up Tim at For Hemis Only over in Ontario. He'll probably have the perfect cam for you on the shelf.

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: AndyF] #497938 10/15/09 07:13 PM 10/15/09 07:13 PM
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Crocker OP mopar C Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland	Will Do Andy... Closer to home for me too..

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497939 10/15/09 07:34 PM 10/15/09 07:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY H hemigod426 top fuel
hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	have great setup im pulling out of 477 oe hemi. its comp solid flat 557 lift, 108 lsa ,icl 106. with springs all like new ,lots of thump and rpm. pm me if you need it MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: hemigod426] #497940 10/15/09 07:39 PM 10/15/09 07:39 PM
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prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	you may want to double check but im 98% sure that stock manifolds will not work with them heads.

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: prochargedhemi] #497941 10/15/09 08:45 PM 10/15/09 08:45 PM
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Crocker OP mopar C Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland	(you may want to double check but im 98% sure that stock manifolds will not work with them heads.) The heads are cast #2531110. The manifolds bolt up fine... gaskets match and all. Is that what you are talking about?

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497942 10/15/09 09:03 PM 10/15/09 09:03 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	yes, the MP aluminums i have, have a raised exhaust runner and port opening is just above the iron manifold and gaskets.

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497943 10/15/09 09:17 PM 10/15/09 09:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,715 closer to Canadian beer! torkrules I'm neurotic
torkrules I'm neurotic Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,715 closer to Canadian beer!	Quote: Will Do Andy... Closer to home for me too.. I've got the same set up. Tim set me up with a nice hydraulic cam that he has ground special. Do yourself a favour and take the lifters apart and clean them. Too many of them are hit and miss. Make sure they hold pressure and bleed them off before using them. You could use a stage V with two AVS carbs. Has better fuel distribution than the MP dual plane and will fit under the hood.

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: torkrules] #497944 10/16/09 12:46 PM 10/16/09 12:46 PM
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Crocker OP mopar C Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 444 Newfoundland	Right on... for the hour it takes to disassemble and clean the lifters, It's worth it

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497945 10/17/09 02:04 AM 10/17/09 02:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal Brian Hafliger master
Brian Hafliger master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal	Quote: Please help me select a cam. Here are the Specs: -472 hemi (pro built- bullet proof) -stock hemi valve train -M/P aluminum heads -10.3: 1 cr -M1 dual plane intake (no choice- clearance) -B/G Mighty demon 850 annular carb -4 speed -3.54 rear -Stock Hemi exhaust manifolds with 2.5" exhaust (no choice - clearance)- pro flow mufflers I want to stay with stock type exhaust (no headers) because of the fast ratio steering arms and T/A style rear sway bar. Help me select a cam that will maximise a stock exhaust system. I would prefer hydraulic but would consider solid... again this is a street car.. E Body Any other suggestions will be appreciated Thanks Glenn Comp hyd. custom cam: 241-247@ .050 .550/.530 lift on a 113lca is what I'd run. Brian Hafliger

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497946 10/17/09 09:03 AM 10/17/09 09:03 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,715 closer to Canadian beer! torkrules I'm neurotic
torkrules I'm neurotic Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,715 closer to Canadian beer!	Quote: Right on... for the hour it takes to disassemble and clean the lifters, It's worth it Wish I had taken my own advice. I always have to learn the hard way.

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: Crocker] #497947 10/17/09 06:40 PM 10/17/09 06:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct. T turbobitt super stock
turbobitt super stock T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct.	a Board member Dan (DRAM) did a cam for us on a 472 Hemi. It was a hydraulic roller, stage 5 unported replacement heads, Stage 5 intake with two carters, and about 9:1 compresion. The engine made about 586 HP and was very street friendly. This also went into an E-body with 3.55 gears but this engine had TTI headers. If you can swing the extra dough, I think a hyd. roller is the way to go. Allan G. 1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy. 1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno. 1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: turbobitt] #497948 10/19/09 10:19 AM 10/19/09 10:19 AM
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3ddart pro stock 3 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio	allen: what were the specs. on your cam? dave

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi #497949 10/19/09 10:30 AM 10/19/09 10:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,376 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,376 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: roller cam for sure. mabey .620 on the intakes .610 on the exausts. keep the duration to about 240's at .050" on the intake, little more on the exaust. that would be a awesome cam for your combo. mabey check with ULTRADYNE. I'm sure they could come up with a cam like the above. Ultradyne has been out of business for quite a while now. Some of their guys and their cam grinds went to Bullet Cams. CHIP 5554138-cudadriveway.jpg (117 downloads) CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: 3ddart] #497950 10/19/09 12:09 PM 10/19/09 12:09 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct. T turbobitt super stock
turbobitt super stock T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 760 Southington Ct.	Quote: allen: what were the specs. on your cam? dave Dave, I don't know the exact specs. This was an engine that Dan fixed for us that was done by a so-called Hemi Expert. I restored this car and the owner bought this engine and it wipped out the solid flat tappet cam that was in it. My only hand in this was to direct the repair to Dan(Dram). He selected the lob profile based on what he had to work with. You can PM DRAM, he would know. 1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy. 1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno. 1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.

Re: Cam Selection-472 hemi [Re: turbobitt] #497951 10/19/09 02:19 PM 10/19/09 02:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,652 Central Ky, area C CHRYCOFAN top fuel
CHRYCOFAN top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,652 Central Ky, area	I had Scott Brown spec mine for the 472....240/250 on a 112 lobe sep & .545/.560 lift. 3.23 gears & A factory High stall converter ( rebuilt ). Works for me, seems we're all in the same ballpark. Butch

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