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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 07:52 PM
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I wouldn't do anything till I had alot more race time and honed my driving techniques and established a base line et.
 I think you've nailed it. I would not touch a thing.
Unless he stopped for take-out mid track, his numbers don't make sense. I believe that is why there is the debate over the converter and 60' time and what the result would be.
With a 1.9 60', and 105 trap speed, that should be a 13.0 to 13.1, not a 13.68. Either one of his three numbers is wrong, or something happened mid track
He needs more track time, and after that, he needs to start tuning.
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Re: Opinions on my set up
[Re: B G Racing]
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10/14/09 08:11 PM
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I wouldn't do anything till I had alot more race time and honed my driving techniques and established a base line et.Then make changes as required to better the et,starting with gear ratio,tires and easy bolt on parts.You will always have the base line to tell you if the changes worked or not. 
the gear itself is a torque multiplier but
you HAVE to put it to the ground
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 09:01 PM
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I wouldn't do anything till I had alot more race time and honed my driving techniques and established a base line et.
I think you've nailed it. I would not touch a thing.
Unless he stopped for take-out mid track, his numbers don't make sense. I believe that is why there is the debate over the converter and 60' time and what the result would be.
With a 1.9 60', and 105 trap speed, that should be a 13.0 to 13.1, not a 13.68. Either one of his three numbers is wrong, or something happened mid track
He needs more track time, and after that, he needs to start tuning.
I'm very certain of this factas well. I've had very minimal seat time at the track. I know once the newness wears off I'll be good to go
Sadly I threw out the time slip. I know 1320 time and trap speed were such, and I might be remember the 0 to 60 foot wrong, but I'm almost certain it was around 1.9, if not it was close, not off by more then a couple tenths .1 + or -
Mike
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Re: Opinions on my set up
[Re: MikeyT]
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10/14/09 09:50 PM
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I wouldn't do anything till I had alot more race time and honed my driving techniques and established a base line et.
I think you've nailed it. I would not touch a thing.
Unless he stopped for take-out mid track, his numbers don't make sense. I believe that is why there is the debate over the converter and 60' time and what the result would be.
With a 1.9 60', and 105 trap speed, that should be a 13.0 to 13.1, not a 13.68. Either one of his three numbers is wrong, or something happened mid track
He needs more track time, and after that, he needs to start tuning.
I'm very certain of this factas well. I've had very minimal seat time at the track. I know once the newness wears off I'll be good to go
Sadly I threw out the time slip. I know 1320 time and trap speed were such, and I might be remember the 0 to 60 foot wrong, but I'm almost certain it was around 1.9, if not it was close, not off by more then a couple tenths .1 + or -
Mike
A couple tenths in the 60ft. would change everything.
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 09:55 PM
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I wouldn't do anything till I had alot more race time and honed my driving techniques and established a base line et.Then make changes as required to better the et,starting with gear ratio,tires and easy bolt on parts.You will always have the base line to tell you if the changes worked or not.
the gear itself is a torque multiplier but
you HAVE to put it to the ground
You guys are over-rocketeering this.......and I'm still holding my breath on anyone to take me up on my bet........I'm trying to stimulate the economy.........  Somebody WILL have a few K to spend on their hot rod......... 
I'll even put a 2.91 Sure Grip in the car and I'll still bet it'll go mid 12's with JUST a converter swap and slicks......... 
Any takers???  According to all the experts, the odds are way better than going to the Casino.......... 
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 09:56 PM
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I know i know .1 on the bottom often means .2 on the end, but honestly I wasn't that far off!
Man this is a great discussion and I feel like things are coming to gether on it and I'm getting excited. I just for once would like to run what you big dogs run!
Mike
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 10:25 PM
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I wouldn't do anything till I had alot more race time and honed my driving techniques and established a base line et.Then make changes as required to better the et,starting with gear ratio,tires and easy bolt on parts.You will always have the base line to tell you if the changes worked or not.
the gear itself is a torque multiplier but
you HAVE to put it to the ground
You guys are over-rocketeering this.......and I'm still holding my breath on anyone to take me up on my bet........I'm trying to stimulate the economy......... Somebody WILL have a few K to spend on their hot rod.........
I'll even put a 2.91 Sure Grip in the car and I'll still bet it'll go mid 12's with JUST a converter swap and slicks.........
Any takers??? According to all the experts, the odds are way better than going to the Casino..........
You put 2.91,s in and I will take that bet that it wont do mid 12,s
But as is, it Does have the MPH for mid 12,s it just needs a better hook and more vert
As many have stated
I agree with Mike and Bob above that I would run the combo as is to get some better baseline runs out of it. Theres nothing wrong with that With more runs ,he may break into the high 12,s anyways.
But no doubt IMO, that MPH shows that his ride is good for a mid 12. mike
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 10:51 PM
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You put 2.91,s in and I will take that bet that it wont do mid 12,s
OK.......It's a BET.......
Is the starter of the thread, Mike, willing?
Do we have anyone that'll hold the money while this takes place? How about Mr. P Body or Bob George?
Can we get a Moparts member to loan us a 2.91 Sure-grip chunk???
If his local track is open, for 4K, I'll drive up there on a Thursday with the converter and my tranny jack and do the swaps in his driveway on Friday, then we'll go to TNT either Friday night or Saturday.........
If his local track is closed, for a 5K bet, I'll go up there, get the car, bring it back, swap converters, gears, and install slicks......and he can race it.........then I'll swap gears back and haul it back up to Wisconsin.......
If he doesn't mind, I'd prefer to drive, but I'm sure I can walk him through how to get the most out of it.......
Step up with the cash........  This is gonna be FUN....... 
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 10:59 PM
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LOL! I would love to, but this weekend I have to work and have a paper for class to complete. Now give me a little time to get the slicks and the converter and I promise that I will leave the car the same and run it as such! hopefully I can get into the 12's with it. This would also shut up a few of the braggarts at the local club who think my mopar is two big and to possibly be fast. Sorry they are import dudes and they do not know what they say!
Mike
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Re: Opinions on my set up
[Re: MikeyT]
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10/14/09 11:00 PM
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How about next weekend? Is your track still open, and do you know for how long? BTW.......I'll buy the converter and you'll get to keep it, no charge........Free converter and installed for free.......
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 11:06 PM
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Big Squeeze I'll be honest you got me all fired up! Thanks! Its going to make sleep very difficult this evening Yet its really kind of a bad time for me. When I was asking I was trying to figure out a few things over the winter months to work on.  Not by next weekend! My car is actually slated to go into the shop on monday to fix this ugliness  and this one  Mike
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 11:11 PM
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It'll look fine running mid 12's........and I have a set of slicks you can use...... If you're up for it, I can come get it ANYTIME and I can do a private track rental at a track about two hours from house for $75/hour (Mokan Dragway)...... I'll take the car there, run it as is, with plenty of Moparts members there, I'll swap converters and gears at the track, then we'll do the money shot.........Then I'll swap gears back and bring the car back to you.......
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/14/09 11:14 PM
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Man thats tempting! Sorry as much as I would love too I can't do this until spring. Sorry!
Mike
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/15/09 04:43 PM
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dang I was hoping to see that majic trick really I would have loved tosee the results. Wayne how much nos were you plan on running?
Nothing magic about it.......As long as the motor isn't running out of fuel or missing, it'll be fine, as-is........ 
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/15/09 11:55 PM
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I do have a couple questions. What will running a loose converter do for driveability on the street. Lets say I do go with a 3800 loose converter. Won't I have huge overheating issues on the street with it?
Mike
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Re: Opinions on my set up
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10/16/09 09:09 AM
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I do have a couple questions. What will running a loose converter do for driveability on the street. Lets say I do go with a 3800 loose converter. Won't I have huge overheating issues on the street with it?
Mike
Mike. with todays Tight converters you could have a 4500+ stall vert and not know it driving around town.
My 4200 stall Dynamic drives and feels like a Stock Vert, That 4200 stall doesnt come into play untill, you put the hammer down.
EXACTLY.........Don't sweat it.......If you're worried about it, just put the biggest tranny cooler you can find in front of the radiator........
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