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What I would like is to get a decent street thumper that can hang with some of the other guys in my car group. Most of these guys have street tuned imports that are well in the 12' and I would like to be at least respectable, while retaining driveablility.

Mike

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How quick is "respectable" in your book and what kind of tire do you plan on racing on???

Like mentioned, slicks and converter swap and you'll run mid 12's........

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This would be very respectable, but will my 8 3/4 survive? (looks at Quicktree)

mike

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your car is not 3900 pounds, so no he's not making enough hp to run 12s. he's making good hp for what he has and I agree he needs to work on the 60' which isn't bad for what he has either. more converter,better tire,maybe a gear change would probably help. also a better carb/intake may help.

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That's wrong, Tony.........105 IS enough speed to go 12's at ANY weight...........ALL he needs is traction and a converter swap and I guarantee it'll run at least 12.50's..........and with a converter swap and sticky tires, I bet it'll pick up 2MPH.......

I've had LOTS of 3,900 to 4,000LB cars run mid 12's in the 105MPH range even with 3.55 gears..........

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At 105mph it's got mid 12's in it.

As much as people don't like to pay for them, a looser converter is going to help a bunch.

Get the 60' down and the ET will follow. Sticky tires, pinion angle, spring clamps, front suspension work, etc.

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I don't think it's going to be as easy (or cheap)as some of you think to go from 13.60s to mid 12s. problem areas are going to be tire, converter. traction and a little more power. and to answer your question about the 83/4, heavy car with decent power and traction could lead to disaster for it. take all the precautions with it. it all depends on how much money you want to spend to reach your goal. If it were me I would get the heads ported, different carb and intake, headers, slicks maybe a 10.5, 8" race converter. that would be a good start, and maybe a cam swap

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DON'T BELIEVE THE NAYSAYERS!!!........It IS that easy.......and you don't need an 8" converter.........just a 4,000 9.5 or 10" (about $550 for a new one with shipping or you could look around here for a good used one for about half that) and a set of used 28X9 slicks and you're there.........and that's a LOT cheaper than buying and installing camshafts, installing different headers, having the heads ported, different carb, different intake and a $1,000 8" converter............With all those changes, it'd run low 11's and cost you at least 4K.......

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I don't think it's going to be as easy (or cheap)as some of you think to go from 13.60s to mid 12s. problem areas are going to be tire, converter. traction and a little more power. and to answer your question about the 83/4, heavy car with decent power and traction could lead to disaster for it. take all the precautions with it. it all depends on how much money you want to spend to reach your goal. If it were me I would get the heads ported, different carb and intake, headers, slicks maybe a 10.5, 8" race converter. that would be a good start, and maybe a cam swap

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I get the impression this was the 1st time out with this car, which leads me to believe some tuning and seat time could net considerable gains. Again, 105 mph is easily low 13/ high 12 horsepower.

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I don't think it's going to be as easy (or cheap)as some of you think to go from 13.60s to mid 12s. problem areas are going to be tire, converter. traction and a little more power. and to answer your question about the 83/4, heavy car with decent power and traction could lead to disaster for it. take all the precautions with it. it all depends on how much money you want to spend to reach your goal. If it were me I would get the heads ported, different carb and intake, headers, slicks maybe a 10.5, 8" race converter. that would be a good start, and maybe a cam swap

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DON'T BELIEVE THE NAYSAYERS!!!........It IS that easy.......and you don't need an 8" converter.........just a 4,000 9.5 or 10" (about $550 for a new one with shipping or you could look around here for a good used one for about half that) and a set of used 28X9 slicks and you're there.........and that's a LOT cheaper than buying and installing camshafts, installing different headers, having the heads ported, different carb, different intake and a $1,000 8" converter............With all those changes, it'd run low 11's and cost you at least 4K.......

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I learned a long time ago to go overkill when looking for ET. it saves you disappointment

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I don't think it's going to be as easy (or cheap)as some of you think to go from 13.60s to mid 12s. problem areas are going to be tire, converter. traction and a little more power. and to answer your question about the 83/4, heavy car with decent power and traction could lead to disaster for it. take all the precautions with it. it all depends on how much money you want to spend to reach your goal. If it were me I would get the heads ported, different carb and intake, headers, slicks maybe a 10.5, 8" race converter. that would be a good start, and maybe a cam swap

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DON'T BELIEVE THE NAYSAYERS!!!........It IS that easy.......and you don't need an 8" converter.........just a 4,000 9.5 or 10" (about $550 for a new one with shipping or you could look around here for a good used one for about half that) and a set of used 28X9 slicks and you're there.........and that's a LOT cheaper than buying and installing camshafts, installing different headers, having the heads ported, different carb, different intake and a $1,000 8" converter............With all those changes, it'd run low 11's and cost you at least 4K.......

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if you can get him running 12.50s with a $550 converter and a pair of slicks and guarantee it. I would have to advise him to take you up on it. I think it will take around 108mph and a few other chenges to gain over 1.1 seconds.

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if you can get him running 12.50s with a $550 converter and a pair of slicks and guarantee it. I would have to advise him to take you up on it. I think it will take around 108mph and a few other chenges to gain over 1.1 seconds.

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Put up 4K and I'll prove it.......I'll call PTC and have them send the converter to my house, I'll drive up there with my 28X9 slicks and tranny jack and swap converters in his driveway and then take it to test and tune.......(if the drag strip is still open this time of year in Wisconsin???) Heck, for 5K, I'll go to Wisconsin, bring the car back here, do the deed, and bring it back to him.......

ANY takers??? anyone want to make a quick 4 or 5K???????

I'll also say that with the converter swap and adding slicks, it'll pick up 2MPH, which would put it at 107 and the car may run as good as 12.30's.........

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Always wanted to ask what type of 1/4 ET i would get from running 89MPH in the 1/8th if I got traction? Never could get traction at all and usually ran 8.40's but trapped at 89mph very consistenly on all 4 runs in the cuda.

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if you can get him running 12.50s with a $550 converter and a pair of slicks and guarantee it. I would have to advise him to take you up on it. I think it will take around 108mph and a few other chenges to gain over 1.1 seconds.

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Put up 4K and I'll prove it.......I'll call PTC and have them send the converter to my house, I'll drive up there with my 28X9 slicks and tranny jack and swap converters in his driveway and then take it to test and tune.......(if the drag strip is still open this time of year in Wisconsin???) Heck, for 5K, I'll go to Wisconsin, bring the car back here, do the deed, make my 5K, and bring it back to him.......

ANY takers??? anyone want to make a quick 4 or 5K???????

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Always wanted to ask what type of 1/4 ET i would get from running 89MPH in the 1/8th if I got traction? Never could get traction at all and usually ran 8.40's but trapped at 89mph very consistenly on all 4 runs in the cuda.

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89MPH in the 1/8 is 7.60's in the 1/8, which is 12.0's - 12teens @ 109 in the 1/4...........

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Personally I'm all for this idea! Yet seriously a couple things are given. It looks like slicks and converter change are a minimum.

I got the slicks covered.
Now what size converter should I go with?

Mike

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like I said if you guarantee it, he needs to take you up on the offer it would eb the best money he ever spent. If I had had 4k I would probably take you up on the bet. but since I don't I would like to see him spend the $550 and run the mid 12.50s. I would be first in line to give you a big congrats.

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Heck, I know you're a BIG BALLER, just borrow the money from the bank for 30 days.......You'll DOUBLE your money.........and there can be as many Moparts members around as you want to verify that I don't touch anything else.......

It'll be the easiest 4 or 5K you've ever made.......

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like I said if you guarantee it, he needs to take you up on the offer it would eb the best money he ever spent. If I had had 4k I would probably take you up on the bet. but since I don't I would like to see him spend the $550 and run the mid 12.50s. I would be first in line to give you a big congrats.

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Heck, I know you're a BIG BALLER, just borrow the money from the bank for 30 days.......You'll DOUBLE your money.........and there can be as many Moparts members around as you want to verify that I don't touch anything else.......

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Personally I'm all for this idea! Yet seriously a couple things are given. It looks like slicks and converter change are a minimum.

I got the slicks covered.
Now what size converter should I go with?

Mike

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Like mentioned, I'd go with a 9.5 or 10" that stalls at least 3,800.........I've had great luck with PTC 256-383-6868......... Tell them you want it to stall at LEAST 3,800RPM (personaly, I'd get something that stalls around 4,500).......

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just help the man out, I would love to see him run 12.50

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I'm trying to help you out too by making you 5K richer......

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Probably not. I'm learning as I go. I've got timing set at 34 degrees (pings at 36) and went up one jet size on the carb, but that is about it. I haven't done any other wild voodoo things to it yet.

I was afriad that the top end change might be in order. ( suggestions would be nice for each)
Would uncorking my headers and fattening up the carb do anything?

Ny the way I went with a streetwize build and it was very helpful to set this car up.

Mike

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