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Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: Sixpackman340] #48623
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We had a few shaker challengers in Connecticut back in the eighties and I knew how special they were even back then.

1) In 1981 a local guy had a 1971 JH23N1B 383 non R/T Challenger with a shaker on it. I chased after the hood for a year and finally got it. I traded the guy a T/A hood and some parts for it. I ended up selling it for $750 and I thought I was rich!!!

2) In 1983 I purchased a 1971 Challenger 440-6 R/T, super track pack, N96, Plum crazy, black top, stripes, the hood was missing. I tried to get a hood for it but never could (shouldn't have sold the first one). I sold the car in 1984 for $4K.

3) A local guy in Bridgeport had a EB7 440-6 Challenger R/T 4 speed car with a shaker since new. I tried to get the car for years. It disappeared and then resurfaced in 2000. Another local flipper guy got to it before me and purchased the car for $3K.

4) The one I really wish I bought. A 1971 Challenger JH27N1B 4 speed plum crazy shaker convertible. This car sold new at Cavallaro motors back on 1971. It was traded back to the dealer in the late seventies. They couldn't sell it and repainted it brown. I could have purchased it for $5K. Went through a few local owners, a buddy got it and pulled the hood off and sold the car to someone in NY. That was back in 1986. Who knew.


1970 Dodge Challenger T/A

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: jeff968] #48624
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Daniel,

I have a shaker and so does my dad. Are you looking for VIN's in a way or registering the cars? If so i can shoot you them. One is a 71 non r/t and the other is a 71 r/t....

Steve

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Anyone have a pic of the crush zone or raised boss area?

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: Lawn Monkey] #48626
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Reading this post makes me wana cry. Not knowing how rare of a car I had back in the early 80's I parted it out.

It was a 71 340 R/T Shaker 4 speed Plum Crazy car. I sold the paper work and tags to a very well known mopar fellow. The body was sold to a local kid at the time and he still has it. I kept some of the parts along with the engine. The shaker hood went to John Brown, a guy that went through a bunch of Hemi cars back in the day, and was put on a Black Hemi Challenger non shaker car.

Over the years I think I have done pretty well at keeping the rare cars and parts, but MAN did I screw up with that car.

I would bet somewhere out there, someone has a 71 Plum Crazy 340 R/T shaker car missing the REAL body numbers and engine. Oh, and to boot, this was a late built car with a blue painted engine.

Dan

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: HemiChallenger] #48627
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Quote:

Daniel,

I have a shaker and so does my dad. Are you looking for VIN's in a way or registering the cars? If so i can shoot you them. One is a 71 non r/t and the other is a 71 r/t....

Steve




Hey Steve,

I am trying to build a database on N96 Challengers. If you would like to share the info on yours, (copy of Broadcast Sheet/Fender Tag info) please e-mail me or send it via snail mail. I can also tell you how many (if any) cars are known to exist like yours.

Thanks!

Daniel Banker
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Cocoa, FL 32927
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Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: Sixpackman340] #48628
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I've heard of non T/A challengers coming with the T/A hood? whats the deal with that?? I would like to know more about that...




You could buy a Hemi Challenger or Hemi Cuda and order either car with a T/A hood from the dealer. It came with a special aircleaner similar to the 3x2 with the seal alla around but 2x4. It had a different N9_ number.

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: ragtop] #48629
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Was a silver Shaker available for 1970 Challengers?




I believe the argent ones were on 70's, with some of the the late 70 and all 71's being black. Daniel knows best on this so maybe he will chime in again. He's the man on Shaker Challengers!!!


Chris from New Jersey
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I know of more 1971 argent colored Shaker Challenger Bubbled cars than Black Bubbled 1971 Shaker Challenger cars.My facts all start with the 1971 Challenger in my garage that came from the factory painted purple with white Interior with rear window louver and rear wing and tint and other stuff and just happened to have an Argent Shake Bubble from the factory on it.

Also mccannix on this board has a 1971 Challenger that came originally with a shaker and it also has a argent bubble.

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: hemicar1971] #48631
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That's interesting to hear about the argent bubbles. Can I assume this is related to build date? I've got a 71 R/T 383 4-speed car, also Plum Crazy with white stripes and interior. It is a long way from worrying about the bubble color, but would be nice to know which way it should go.

I met up with Daniel at his place about a month ago... he is a super nice guy and has some beautiful cars!

Darren

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #48632
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You could buy a Hemi Challenger or Hemi Cuda and order either car with a T/A hood from the dealer.




Challenger...Yes

Cuda...NO WAY!

They are two different cars and hoods. The Cuda has a header panel in the front and the Challenger doesn't. They never put an AAR hood on anything other than an AAR.

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You must be right? I used to have an air cleaner for a Hemi with T/A hood and heard from a couple of people that I thought were in theknow that Chrysler made it available for both Cudas and Challengers for drag racing purposes...but I can't recall ever seeing one on a Cuda? The T/A scoop is definitely the better of the two!

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #48634
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Not saying you couldn't put one on a Cuda, but the Hemi TA air cleaner was mandatory on a Hemi Challenger optioned with the TA hood.
Part number 3577377 if you were to order it separate from Chrysler back in the day.
Fram, the manufacturer called it 70 1/2 Challenger as per this print dated 12-16-69.

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Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: mccannix] #48635
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While the N94 T/A hood was available on other Challengers in 1970 & 1971, the AAR hood was only available on the AAR.

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: Alaskan_TA] #48636
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Must be really rare having a T/A hood on a non T/A challenger. How much rarer is it than a shaker?

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: Sixpackman340] #48637
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Quote:

Must be really rare having a T/A hood on a non T/A challenger. How much rarer is it than a shaker?




I have a T/A hood, small springs and T/A air cleaner on my 70 440 Six Pack, no its not from the factory that way so its not on the data tag, just thought I bring it up because its a perfect fit the 340 engine and the 440 both sit at the same hieght in the k frame so the air cleaner fit the hood surface 100%....... Would'nt a hemi shaker base plate and lid also work with the T/A hood?

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: Lawn Monkey] #48638
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Daniel i will try to get that over to you as fast as possible!

Thanks,

Steve

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: Lawn Monkey] #48639
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[qute] Would'nt a hemi shaker base plate and lid also work with the T/A hood?



Basically what the hemi TA base consists of is a factory Hemi shaker base that the 7 studs were never put in. Instead the outer 340-6 TA ring was spotwelded 26 times around the edge to the base.
The assembly also had the 3 nipples installed.
Same as a 340-6 TA base is really a 440-6 pak shaker base with the 3 nipples and the ring spotwelded on.
Here's a picture of an NOS Hemi TA base (the one in the rear) along with half a dozen 340-6, oval Hemi, 440-6 and 340 shaker NOS aircleaners.

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Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: mccannix] #48640
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Mccannix thanks for the info , thats some collection of base plates you have. Does the shaker base plate also have a wet weather door at the rear like the T/A has?

Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: hemicar1971] #48641
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.Not sure what he sold the other purple convt, for unrestored.





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Re: N96 SHAKER Challengers [Re: Sixpackman340] #48642
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Must be really rare having a T/A hood on a non T/A challenger. How much rarer is it than a shaker?




I have a '70 R/T 383 auto with a factory N94 hood (sheet & tag).



I know of 4 '70 non-T/A Challengers built w/N94 T/A hoods
R/T Challenger HEMI 4spd black/black - TX9
R/T Challenger HEMI auto red/black - FE5 (J78 & J81)
R/T Challenger 383 auto green/black - FF4 (J81)
Challenger 340 auto blue/white - EB5 (J81)

& about 8 '71s

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