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Here is my chevy would make more power.There is just so much more available parts for the chevy.Now lets make a better comparison.396 chevelle vs a 383 r.r.close to the same advertised h.p..car weight is close.What you think??You want to compare the ls6,A closer rival would be a max wedge.Even A better comparison that I would like to see is an apple- apple test.take a 440 and a 454,build them the same.Comp. ratio,cam size,intake,carb, etc.basicly same modification to both engines,I think the mopar would come out on top.Anyone board with some engines laying around

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A question like this, gets no real answer, because someone knew someone, who had a fast whatever it might have been.....but when it comes down to it, cylinder heads are the answer. Given the same cubic inches, the same weight car and similarly prepared combos, the rectangular port Chevy, beats the wedge Mopar everytime. You can't compare stock and super stock, because of all the factoring and weight breaks. And as much of a Mopar guy as I am, it is not hard to see the advantage a rect port Chevy head has over a Mopar wedge.

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well said and end of story, really. Even the oval port head is a better piece than the conventional wedge. In "original" configuration, the Mopar stuff had a better quality of materials from a durability standpoint, but the comparisons pretty much end there.

Let's not forget folks how much reverence the Mopar camp gave the Chevy Rat. If you get the chance to see the Ball Stud Hemi, it was pretty much a copy of the design.

MB

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1969 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray LT2 454 V8 465 ** 10.6 132 MT

4th on the list, is this supposed to be a real car from 1969 or some ones fantasy?

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A question like this, gets no real answer, because someone knew someone, who had a fast whatever it might have been.....but when it comes down to it, cylinder heads are the answer. Given the same cubic inches, the same weight car and similarly prepared combos, the rectangular port Chevy, beats the wedge Mopar everytime. You can't compare stock and super stock, because of all the factoring and weight breaks. And as much of a Mopar guy as I am, it is not hard to see the advantage a rect port Chevy head has over a Mopar wedge.

i know that on paper it looks like the chevy will always win because of superior head flow. i know they are getting more head flow than most all of our aftermarket indy, edelbrock heads. but it seems the mopars always run with them at the track. is it because the rest of the head has a better design, like combustion chamber, high velocity ports that create more torque than chevy? and better valve degree?

Monte

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I thought this was already done?
Darren Tedder built all of the best available big blocks,,,And the Hemi won with 800+ hp.

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Back in the late 60's my friend Ron Kukuruda had a 64 belevedere with a 318. We bought a bone stock max wedge engine that was in a mopar crate from a speed shop in columbus ohio. This was an all steel car, with a mostly stock push button 727 and a 3000 converter. I think the car had 9" M & H cheater slicks on it also. I was with Ron on many of nights on the street & this car never even came close to losing to any big block chevy. When we finally got the car to the strip & took the covers off the cast iron headers the thing went mid 11s. Most of the people who ran at keystone & Pittsburgh (PID) know of this car which was bone stock down to the factory head gaskets.

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Randy,referr back to my early post about mopar racers around Pgh. on this thread.Our Mopar racers are like our Pgh Steelers and our Penguins.Our GM and Ford guys follow the Pgh Pirates.Ron and many others have made their mark.

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I know it's one of basically none, but there is a true, factory ZL-1 corvette around here that was a Gulf oil research car. It's owned by a gentleman named John Mahr.

I don't know of a stock mopar big or small block that could touch that car.

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This is interesting I have own a number of vette's over the years and currently have a 2005 so I do know something about them.
They claim there where only 2 factory built ZL1's ever produced 1 is owned by Roger Judski of Roger's Corvette's here Maitland Fl and it is very well documented.
He has tried to track down number 2 and there was someone on the west coast that claimed to have it and it was a basket case but when Roger checked it out they could not produce any documentation on the car so he passed on it.
There where a number of vette's that had a ZL1 installed in them but not at the factory.

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I'm betting if you dig you will find THREE Corvettes with ZL1 engines.... three different colors too!
White car- Kevin Suydam car VIN 6753, Yellow car Roger Judski (the "drug car") VIN 29219 and John's automatic car VIN 10209

As for the question, the answer is EASY.

On a MoPar forum, the MoPar was faster for sure from the factory.

On a Chevy forum, the Chevy was faster for sure from the factory.

What do I win?

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Bob..
you left out the E.A.G.L.E.S on purpose?
cheapst.

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You mean that team that Mad Dog Mikael Vick plays for? If they ever get to PGH,I'll sic my dog Maxinus on him.

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1969 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray LT2 454 V8 465 ** 10.6 132 MT

4th on the list, is this supposed to be a real car from 1969 or some ones fantasy?

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Funny stuff that makes these "lists".

I am willing to bet that is John Maher's car with a PROTOTYPE 454 LT2 engine in it.

Who wants to bet...?