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Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: RUNCHARGER] #483625
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I think the brushed 15X7 rings went onto AAR's as well.

Sheldon




No brushed on aar or ta

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I think the brushed 15X7 rings went onto AAR's as well.

Sheldon




No brushed on aar or ta

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That's allways been a source of debate amongst the Trans Am crowd, If I recall even Galen finally gave in to that debate, and agreed that some T/A's/AAR's had brushed rings, IIRC


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Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: DAYCLONA] #483627
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I think the brushed 15X7 rings went onto AAR's as well.

Sheldon




No brushed on aar or ta

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That's allways been a source of debate amongst the Trans Am crowd, If I recall even Galen finally gave in to that debate, and agreed that some T/A's/AAR's had brushed rings, IIRC


Mike





And don't forget you could get T/A's with dog dish AND trim rings. Do the rallye trim ring rules apply to a dog dish car?? Also, in that case the rim is black instead of body color.

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: sixpackbee] #483628
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Not to hijack the thread but what were the brushed style 15 x 7 rings put on?




Brushed trim rings were released in Jan. of 1970 for use on B Body's and later on some of the T/A's.

Now back to the original question.

Original rings were polished, but Chrysler chromed the new "P" rings because that was the description that was called out in the parts book.

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: BJohnson] #483629
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Now back to the original question.

Original rings were polished, but Chrysler chromed the new "P" rings because that was the description that was called out in the parts book.




Have you confirmed since your original post the new P rings are in fact chromed?

Someone should be able to tell up close and in person if it's chromed vs polished bare stainless.

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: autoxcuda] #483630
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Now back to the original question.

Original rings were polished, but Chrysler chromed the new "P" rings because that was the description that was called out in the parts book.




Have you confirmed since your original post the new P rings are in fact chromed?

Someone should be able to tell up close and in person if it's chromed vs polished bare stainless.




Bare metal exposed when the chrome was polished.

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Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: BJohnson] #483631
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Now back to the original question.

Original rings were polished, but Chrysler chromed the new "P" rings because that was the description that was called out in the parts book.




Have you confirmed since your original post the new P rings are in fact chromed?

Someone should be able to tell up close and in person if it's chromed vs polished bare stainless.




Bare metal exposed when the chrome was polished.




Is the bare metal steel (magnetic) or stainless steel.

I thought someone gave MP originals to sample from when they were making them??

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: autoxcuda] #483632
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Slightly magnetic.

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: Snoopy] #483633
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Slightly magnetic.




Now we're getting somewhere.


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Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: Hoof Hearted] #483634
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Slightly magnetic.




Now we're getting somewhere.




Ususally chrome over regular steel trim rings are cheaper than fully stainless rings.

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: autoxcuda] #483635
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Not all stainless steel is non-magnetic.

From: WiseGeek

Is Stainless Steel Magnetic?

When it comes to classifying stainless steel as having magnetic properties, there is not a simple yes and no answer. Instead, the proper response would be to state that it depends. Here is some information about stainless steel that will help to identify situations in which this alloy exhibits magnetic properties, and when it does not.

It is important to understand that stainless steel is not a pure magnetic metal. In fact, stainless steel is really a collective name for a steel alloy that is mixed with other metals in order to give it the properties that make the metal compound so desirable. For instance, the typical stainless steel contains just over ten percent of chromium.

In fact, it is the presence of the chromium that provides stainless steel with the ability to repel permanent stains and keep looking fresh and clean over long periods of time. The chromium essentially creates a protective layer on the alloy that prevents rusting and makes the metal resistant to any real damage. Any scratches to the surface are simply filled in by this protective layer, making it possible to prevent corrosion to occur. It is the introduction of chromium into the mix that we refer to as stainless steel that makes it possible for the alloy to exhibit magnetic properties.

It is important to note that other metals may be introduced into the steel compound as well as the chromium. One of these metals is nickel. Essentially, the addition of nickel to the stainless steel compound helps to strengthen the protective qualities of the chromium. Generally referred to as a 300 series, stainless steel that contains nickel is not magnetic at all. The reason is that the presence of the nickel alters the physical structure of the stainless steel and removes or inhibits any magnetic qualities.


However, magnetic stainless steel does exist. The 400 series, which contains steel and chromium, but without the presence of nickel, does in fact exhibit magnetic qualities. While the degree of magnetic attraction may vary, it is not unusual for items made with the 400 series stainless steel to provide enough attraction to interact with magnets, and in some cases to allow small metal items to adhere to the stainless steel surface. However, magnetic stainless steel in consumer products does not tend to carry a strong magnetic charge, so there are not any practical home uses involving magnetic attraction.

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: Snoopy] #483636
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snoop,
forget the magnet test.
many lower grade stainless steels have magnetic propeties. 405 is a good example.
someones got to sand down a new trim ring and see if a boundry line appears if it is chromed.
yes stainless can be chromed BUT i think it is more expensive and processing than finly polishing 410 stainless.
plus the lower grads stainlesses "Drawer" or metal form easier than the more Nickle content versions. kind of like the weldability diff.
I have both in front of me and say its stamped out stainless and poli`shed to a finish if 75 Ra.
the rtse is dead on the detail is softer or the repro,probably from a worn well used set of dies.
.thats mmy .04 cents

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: HemiGreg] #483637
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someones got to sand down a new trim ring and see if a boundry line appears if it is chromed.




I think the picture that BJohnson posted shows the boundry line your talking about.

Greg,
What is the production date on the new ring?

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: Snoopy] #483638
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repro ring is 7/6/06
also the inner curved lip is smaller and the backside D hole punches are round on the repro.
generally I would have to say the new ones are very nice repro if you put on a whole set. but no way perfect for OE restos. just real nice show or rolling restos. Im going to run them and leave the nos sets hanging on the wall in my bedroom next to the shaker stuff.
ps the repros also weigh more than the nos ones by 26 grams?????
also the nos ones have 78071 made in USA is that its date

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: HemiGreg] #483639
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78071 is the vendor code - Randall Textron. The date code is stamped above the vendor code.
Example: 900924 = 1990 Sept 24

Your NOS set are 15 x 6.5", that's one reason they weigh less than the new ones.

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: Snoopy] #483640
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just measured them and in fact 3" flat face to face same as the repro.
i have some old 6.5 ones and thay are like 2/58" tall not like these and those weigt 50 grams less thanthe old 7s

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: HemiGreg] #483641
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Is there a date code on the NOS rings?

Re: New 15x7 Rallye Trim Rings [Re: BJohnson] #483642
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So does that mean 1970 B bodys built after 1/1/70 came with brushed or polished?

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