All the tracks around here that are sanctioned be it NHRA or IHRA enforce courtesy staging. If you double bulb everything stops until you or your opponent backs up. Also all tracks around here that are sanctioned run with Autostart and some of the stage timers are shorter than others. the spred is something like 8-12seconds before you get the redlite for not fully staging. Double bulbing on accedent happens every now and then and since courtesy staging is enforced no one gets upset about it because it doesn't throw anyone off.

i hear so many games being played at the starting line. wow. all im saying be fair to your competetor. give ample time, dont double bulb, stage and race for a win the freakin games kiddies play

Sheesh.. am I the only one here that hasnt double bulbed?? But then I've never gone red and my worst ever light is a .001..

I raced that guy in the first round of the box gamblers race the bubble bulb did not bother me (wen't .000 on him but broke out,hard to judge 70 mph difference in the end)My problem was the safety factor no helmet ,cage,belts,ect if I were to get loose in the end and hit him he would have flipped over the score board.But what mainly shoots holes in his reason for a double bulb so he could get in and deep stage for car reaction is it was a box race all he had to do is take time out of his box.If he did not have a box too bad they are aloud in the class.If you are not equipped for the class stay out.Their is a et cut off for a reason SAFETY. as for "I need to bubble bulb so I can go deep" is horse $hit build a car for the class or stay out. He is a very good racer in grandmas church car but lets see what he can do when he drives a big boy car.Every time I time trial against Ben 1692 I bubble bulb him just to be an a$$ and to have something to laugh about with him in the pits. but that is exactly what it is being an a$$.

Since seeing that other post about a guy's first time down the strip, can all of you guys with a lot of rules in your head please post them on your trailers so we ALL know what you expect?

bruce you rock you can double bulb me any time as long as you keep makin walleye

if you dont get it mr. runner you never will

novice question,heading to track for first time,sooo if i'm understanding this post correctly,double bulbing is,burn-out,line up to lite first stage lite, then continuing to set your second stage lite(just a couple inches?)without courtesy to opponent? proper staging IS burn-out,either driver hitting first stage lite THEN WAITING for opponent to hit his first stage lite,THEN i inch up to my second stage lite where hopefully my opponent will follow? so the last is correct and i don't want to jump right in too double bulb? correct? first time sorry if it sounds silly just don't want to be in this group you all seem to dislike

Newbee You rock.. You keep reading the quotes and you will learn fast.. except for actually getting seat time, your on the right path to be a good racer yourself. Thier are lots of great race car drivers at many of the events around the U.S. Just keep an open mine and race your own race each time, you will fine your groove and stick with it..

The safety factor comes into play with slower cars in Super Pro class. Yeah!!Chasing them down and putting the big MPH at the top end.. 1 wrong move and somebody is getting hurt or killed I don't want that on my shoulders. If you want to run with the Big Dogs put the same safety equipment in your car, right down to the engine diaper..Helmet jacket gloves shoes should be mandatory.. But I think it's about the track that enforces the rules as well.. or do they???

For those who read half the post in the tread before responding and missing the point... I will maybe repeat some things that have already been mentioned.

Bracket racing cars with a lot of difference in ET means a bigger difference in MPH. It is bad enough that there is 50 MPH difference in a "by the rules" Super Pro races in the 1/8 mile it turns into 75 in the 1/4. Not a good deal considering the slow car is probably 50% heavier than the faster. This needs to be controlled and even pairing cars in the early rounds based on ET is good.

I'm all for a one light start but a one light stage will completely screw up elapsed time incrementals. The two bulbs are there to help you judge the starting line and stage evenly. Hell why not go back to roll starts with a Flagman.

If you have deep on your window. Let me know and I will let you get staged before I do.

As far as putting rules on trailers so everyone will know that is BS. These rules are not dreamed up they are printed on every drag strip I can recall's website. Or you can always join one of the Drag Racing sanctions such as NHRA, IHRA, AHRA and read their book or just go get last years version from a freind. I am not that freind because I like looking at the past 15 years of NHRA rule books stacked on the bookshelf. If you are a novice and racing in street or TNT most people will let you know nicely little things like double bulbing are not cool.

I see nothing wrong with diving into both bulbs at once if the other driver has thier prestage bulb on. Just think if it aint a mistake they are doing it probably because they have an issue that requires them to get in well ahead of you. Plan of attack... They dive in. Dive in as quick as you can right after. Their car will still be trying to get on the converter or recover from the stumble and bam the tree lights.SEE YA

Again the reason double bulbing is a big deal in some cases. Timers that will time you out and you go home because you didn't get your bulbs on in the required time. You need to understand some tracks are rediculously hard to back into the burnout box. Sometimes one driver has the opportunity to do their burnout before the other is even in the burnout box. Then they rush up and set both bulbs. I say put a book in your britches because you are getting ready to get a tail kicking for pulling that one. It aint nice to do your burnout before the other driver has a reasonable chance to get in the box.

Drag Racing is a Gentlemans sport. If you want to do stuff like double bulb on purpose. Why not start fights in the staging lanes so your oppenents eyes are swolen shut. Or better yet just leave before the tree activates and then run your car into your opponent, U-know round-d-round style. Hell if you loose just ram their car with your tow truck so they can't race anymore. What's the difference.

I don't know maybe it is just me. When I win a round or a race. I don't want any hard feelings. I would like to think if I am running against decent people they come over shake my hand and congradulate me if I win and I will do the same if they beat me. You pull this punk crap and well maybe they will come give you a buck tooth and a dotted eye. There is an old saying that I beleive tried and true. WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND

Leon

man its good to see gentleman and women racers still out there.

are you calling him a liar?

i have a question that came to mind, all this talk of courtesy and gentlemen and ladies... when youre beaten how many seek out the other person and congratulate them/shake thier hand, how many say good luck to thier opponent in the lanes before you pull out? (even if its someone you dont know). was wondering if i was the only one.

i know i've gone rounds and never seen the person after that, I've been with people whove raced and won and never had thier opponets come around afterwards to say anything.

just curious.