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Re: common courtesy [Re: ben1692] #482583
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so your that guy go figure




no im not that guy but I would if I knew it bothered you. this is a big boy game you better be ready for anything.

Re: common courtesy [Re: ben1692] #482584
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dont bother me a bit.

Re: common courtesy [Re: MoparPitBull] #482585
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everyone now knows it bothers me so if you can make it into any quick races(big boys) then you can doulbe bulb me all you want until then sportsman racers quiet

Re: common courtesy [Re: Quicktree] #482586
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exactly, it shouldn't make any difference.




It doesnt bother me either BUT... people should know
the proper etiquette... and try to use it.... if a
person knows it and doesnt use it on a regular basis...
they're just a as****e... sure some can roll in and
light them both up by accident but I've seen guys do
it on a regular bassis

Re: common courtesy [Re: MR_P_BODY] #482587
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I did it once last year by accident but I like to prestage and then wait for the other racer to prestage. Then I come up on the converter a little and go in and stage. I know most tracks want everyone to courtesy stage. But it really don't bother me either. Ron

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Re: common courtesy [Re: 383man] #482588
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It's a courtesy, and a good practice and should be followed,especially if the lights are on "autostart".Anyway it keeps racers respectful of each other.All the "head games"should end at the burnout box so everyone has a fair start.I've seen it work against a double bulber,usually they turn on the "red".

Re: common courtesy [Re: Quicktree] #482589
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Im with the ones that dont care too. Never could understand what the fuss was or what difference it made. Makes zero difference, its that burndown clowns that mess you up.

Re: common courtesy [Re: B G Racing] #482590
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We got triple bulbed in the final of 10.0, the fellow went deep before we got out of the burnout box, We still had the tree, but gave it back by .009 at the stripe. Didn't get upset cause we knew he had to set himself deep as quick as possible.Just wish I knew He had such a poor 60' and 1/8 mile and such big MPH at the traps,lol

Re: common courtesy [Re: Hot 340] #482591
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For those of you who don't understand Dragstrip timing systems, Including You QUICKTREE(with a screen name like this you really should know these things) here it is.

Many timing systems as stupid, as it is, and use a system called autostart. Not all but many of these autostart timing systems start timing off once either lane has staged. So, yes it screws the other driver as he had the pre-determined time to pre-stage and stage. If they have a routine after being pre-stage, I don't. These routines include shifting to neutral and so-called clearing the motta out(BS this just squirts multiple pump shots of fuel in the engine that does noty get burned) or purging nitrous. This just screws them up and that's why A----S like to do this. They can't win a race racing straight up so they have to pull some chicken crap on the line to throw their opponent off. I DON'T DO THIS. The one time I did by accident I offered to give the win up to my opponent. Hey it was an accident? Yes, but if I can't handle staging I have no business racing. I deserved the run overturned. Jim Hubber the nice guy that he is declined.

Double bulb me if you want. That just tells me you have no clue how to handle your car. Or you are just a S-------D who can't win without tricks. I just take a deep breath and stage because I don't have any routines between stage bulbs. Either way I now you are weak and I and going to ramp up to A-Game and bust your balls and show you what the back end of my car looks like when I turn the win light on.

Leon


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Re: common courtesy [Re: Leon441] #482592
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For those of you who don't understand Dragstrip timing systems, Including You QUICKTREE(with a screen name like this you really should know these things) here it is.

Many timing systems as stupid, as it is, and use a system called autostart. Not all but many of these autostart timing systems start timing off once either lane has staged. So, yes it screws the other driver as he had the pre-determined time to pre-stage and stage. If they have a routine after being pre-stage, I don't. These routines include shifting to neutral and so-called clearing the motta out(BS this just squirts multiple pump shots of fuel in the engine that does noty get burned) or purging nitrous. This just screws them up and that's why A----S like to do this. They can't win a race racing straight up so they have to pull some chicken crap on the line to throw their opponent off. I DON'T DO THIS. The one time I did by accident I offered to give the win up to my opponent. Hey it was an accident? Yes, but if I can't handle staging I have no business racing. I deserved the run overturned. Jim Hubber the nice guy that he is declined.

Double bulb me if you want. That just tells me you have no clue how to handle your car. Or you are just a S-------D who can't win without tricks. I just take a deep breath and stage because I don't have any routines between stage bulbs. Either way I now you are weak and I and going to ramp up to A-Game and bust your balls and show you what the back end of my car looks like when I turn the win light on.

Leon


Well said Leon, that's why don't do it, I don't play game's, so I do my best to put them on the trailer.


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Re: common courtesy [Re: Leon441] #482593
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For those of you who don't understand Dragstrip timing systems, Including You QUICKTREE(with a screen name like this you really should know these things) here it is.

Many timing systems as stupid, as it is, and use a system called autostart. Not all but many of these autostart timing systems start timing off once either lane has staged. So, yes it screws the other driver as he had the pre-determined time to pre-stage and stage. If they have a routine after being pre-stage, I don't. These routines include shifting to neutral and so-called clearing the motta out(BS this just squirts multiple pump shots of fuel in the engine that does noty get burned) or purging nitrous. This just screws them up and that's why A----S like to do this. They can't win a race racing straight up so they have to pull some chicken crap on the line to throw their opponent off. I DON'T DO THIS. The one time I did by accident I offered to give the win up to my opponent. Hey it was an accident? Yes, but if I can't handle staging I have no business racing. I deserved the run overturned. Jim Hubber the nice guy that he is declined.

Double bulb me if you want. That just tells me you have no clue how to handle your car. Or you are just a S-------D who can't win without tricks. I just take a deep breath and stage because I don't have any routines between stage bulbs. Either way I now you are weak and I and going to ramp up to A-Game and bust your balls and show you what the back end of my car looks like when I turn the win light on.



Leon




save it Leon never seen any auto start, start the timing untill both drivers have turned on the top bulbs. staging battles have been a part of drag racing since the beginning. if you can't handle what ever happens at the line you need more practice.

Re: common courtesy [Re: Quicktree] #482594
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matter fact they don't start timing until 1 of the 2 drivers have staged. but both top bulbs have to be lit.

Re: common courtesy [Re: Quicktree] #482595
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I have personally seen this happen on two different occassions at two different tracks(NOT NHRA).

I am editing.

Evidently somewhere in the last 15 years of being an NHRA member, not going to take the time to look it up, the rule seems to dissapeared. Used to be a rule in Race Procedures if I remember where it was correctly. Stating to courtesy stage. No points deducted or rounds overturned for not doing it but just a rule with no concesquences. The starter could back you out and make you restage, I guess.

I just looked in my NHRA 2009 rule book under Race Procedures, which I beleive has moved to the front half of the book. This is what it says..
"When staging in SS,S,SC,SG, or SStreet categories, both contestants must activate their pre-stage lights before either may advace into the stage beams." In other words courtesy stage.

Leon
For whatever that was worth

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Re: common courtesy [Re: Quicktree] #482596
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Yes it is a courtesy - run your own race and don't fall for the head games - 20 years ago it was all the rage in high stakes races just to mess up the other guy same as changing the dial right before you stage - race clean and let the jerks go home!

Re: common courtesy [Re: Leon441] #482597
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I have personally seen this happen on two different occassions at two different tracks(NOT NHRA).

Like I said if you can't do any better than breaking rules that are spelled out in the NHRA rulebook(THIS RULE HAS NO CONCIQENCES IT IS A RULE OF DECENCY) go ahead that just tell everyone watching what you are.

Leon





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I believe whole heartedly in courtesy staging...But don’t let me know if it pisses you off if I don’t do it.... If you can’t change up you game based on the situation... you need more seat time.


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I believe whole heartedly in courtesy staging...But don’t let me know if it pisses you off if I don’t do it.... If you can’t change up you game based on the situation... you need more seat time.




thought I said that

Re: common courtesy [Re: W.I.N. Racing] #482600
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I believe whole heartedly in courtesy staging...But don’t let me know if it pisses you off if I don’t do it.... If you can’t change up you game based on the situation... you need more seat time.




Well said.. I just wouldn't say you need more seat time. It is not a skill deal the way I see it. A good freind of mine completely looses it when this happens to him. He can outdrive most anyone I know. It only bothers him when racing a Pro .400 tree. Weird because he can cut a .002 bulb in sunlight but yet come back in the dark and stay green with a .00- light.

I think it is a deal for some that hey that guy aint playing fair and I am not going to get my way. Oh and if you are on one of these timers HURRY THE H-- UP. He just can't handle the emotion.

I have told him to do his nitrous priming backing up from the 1/8 mile burnout he does so that is done. Turn the bottles on in the staging lanes and use a ball valve accessable by the driver. Then when you get double bulbed just say to yourself I guess I am staging last. That's my advise to anyone. Some organizations just say don't stage and wait for starter to back the other driver out. Good luck with that.


The guys that know this and double bulb are ussually slow on the tree, slow on the track, and scared out of there mind they are going to loose. I see it as a compliment when someone double bulbs me. But I still see them for what they are.

Leon


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Re: common courtesy [Re: Leon441] #482601
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i never raced on a .400 tree before. i never double bulb, if i would, it would be accidental. i could care less if it happens to me. if that kinda thing shakes racers up, you should look into a different form of racing.... they can double bulb me all they want. doesnt phase me a bit. i got more important things on my mind at that moment

Re: common courtesy [Re: Leon441] #482602
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One of the tracks I race at the starter backed the
guy out after double bulbing before the other guy was
no where near the tree.... happened right ahead of me
while I was waiting to do my burnout... I wondered what
that was about, then I was told (couldnt hear it in
the car) the announcer said over the PA what the
process was

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