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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: cloneguy] #481394
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Hub






Drum?
I don't think paint show be around the studs. When built they worried the paint could allow the wheels to become loose? That's what I was told??

Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: Challenger 1] #481395
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Yes drum. I still have brain freeze.

The instructions that came with the paint said to paint around the studs but not the studs. When the wheels are put on, they will rub off the area around the studs.

We'll see.


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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: cloneguy] #481396
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Red drum instructions.

Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: cloneguy] #481397
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How long did it take you to get the torsion bars in place?

...'cause now you have to take them out and install the rubber boots then put the torsion bars back in.

I'm glad you don't charge the owner for doing things twice, you would need a $50k max

Again, just helping out


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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: anlauto] #481398
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How long did it take you to get the torsion bars in place?





Good eye...I knew something looked different in that picture, but I was too worried about the rear drums.

Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: anlauto] #481399
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You know Alan don't take this personally but I think you know more about the bodies of 7-74 cudas than you do about your wife!!! All kidding aside you are one of the few guys on here that I'd never question what you say!! He is lucky to have you helping him with the resto! How much are you making on this job!!!???

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How long did it take you to get the torsion bars in place?

...'cause now you have to take them out and install the rubber boots then put the torsion bars back in.

I'm glad you don't charge the owner for doing things twice, you would need a $50k max

Again, just helping out




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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: Snoopy] #481400
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Red drum instructions.






........also if disc equipped (front) just the caliper got a "smear" of red across the side of the caliper that would show thru the wheel vents IIRC?,.....also I thought this was only for car with roadwheels only (magnums) and not ralleys? ......I didn't think this was done for 70 and up cars?

Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: DAYCLONA] #481401
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"With Styled Wheels Only"

Was the Magnum the only styled wheel available in 69?

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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: Snoopy] #481402
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There were also "recall wheels" in '69.

Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: 6bblgt] #481403
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Fortunately, the torsion bars aren't loaded or cliped. They still slide in and out easily. That one surprised me. I should have caught it myself.

As for the drums, we're going only by what we have to go by. Clearly the one in the factory photo we have had paint behind the wheel when it was put on. We'll probably take off the paint inside of the studs though.

This is the first car we've done to this level of detail and we certainly do appreciate the help.

We are swapping out the master, to follow up on that subject.

Does anyone have a definitive answer on the tranny mount above?

BTW Alan, you must have missed our question above. I'd really like to know how much you as an expert charge for the assembly work you did in a month on that very nice Cuda. We've shown and told all. It's your turn.


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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #481404
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BTW Alan, you must have missed our question above. I'd really like to know how much you as an expert charge for the assembly work you did in a month on that very nice Cuda. We've shown and told all. It's your turn.




I just read over the owner's invoices for December 2009 and January 2010....My total hours for the assembly for those two months were 54.5.
54.5hrs X $35/hr = $1907.50 CDN

I had a friend install the windshield, backglass and help with the headliner and vinyl top.(ok so I lied when I said I was only one guy).That took him one day.

Keep inmind I work a full time 40hr/week job in a factory which I did not get any holidays until Dec 23rd. I go back tomorrow


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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: anlauto] #481405
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Alan, are you saying you can assemble a complete car for around 2K?



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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: jrwoodjoe] #481406
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Alan, are you saying you can assemble a complete car for around 2K?



Assembling a complete car usually takes 50 -100 hours so the answer is yes. $1750 -$3500 depending on how many parts are ready to bolt on. Installing the windshield/back glass is additional.

So send me a complete car already painted and all the parts, a voila....Your car will be done before your very own eyes...it's magic....


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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: anlauto] #481407
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With the current exchange rate, we'll be right about where you are cost wise on the reassembly. And, we've learned enough this time to actually make money next time.

BUT , you are a serious he-man doing that on top of a full time job in the freezing cold!


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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: cloneguy] #481408
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With the current exchange rate, we'll be right about where you are cost wise on the reassembly. And, we've learned enough this time to actually make money next time.

BUT , you are a serious he-man doing that on top of a full time job in the freezing cold!




My garage has a 30,000 btu gas radiant heater mounted on the ceiling, you can fry eggs in there all year round. T shirt weather...


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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: anlauto] #481409
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Alan, are you saying you can assemble a complete car for around 2K?



Assembling a complete car usually takes 50 -100 hours so the answer is yes. $1750 -$3500 depending on how many parts are ready to bolt on. Installing the windshield/back glass is additional.

So send me a complete car already painted and all the parts, a voila....Your car will be done before your very own eyes...it's magic....





I applaud you, it appears you charge for actual hours working and getting things done on the job your doing and not for hours thinking about what your going to do next. People don't mind being charged for actual work but the problem is being charged for work and seeing no progress.

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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: anlauto] #481410
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I just want to thank everyone that have been helping with the micro details of this resto. It has helped a lot. Better to catch it now then later when everything is back together.

Tim, sorry for the headaches. You guys have given me 110% on this project.

Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise [Re: 70plymA34] #481411
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Sorry there has not been any postings for a while. We got held up on some parts hunting and are slowly getting back on track. The car is about 80% assembled. Remember that when the final pics are posted from Tim, it will not be 100% done yet because I have a number of details to take care of when it comes home. We are not rushing on it anymore because of the parts holdup and weather. As for Tims guarantee on a time frame of getting this done he was on schedule until we got held up with waiting for some things to arrive which was on my end and not his fault. Thanks for understanding.

Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promised. [Re: cloneguy] #481412
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Where's the update


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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promised. [Re: anlauto] #481413
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This one is a little different.

The owner has had us go corner to corner looking for anything that might not pass muster in the OEM circuit.

We've found a few items that need some attention and we're waiting for some parts that will be swapped out. Additionally, we are stripping and redoing the brake drums per spec. And, there are a couple of brackets that are in the process of being redone in correct yellow zinc plating.

As I indicated in another posting, for those vendors who ignore the owner's request to ship to the shop and not the bill to address, I want a middle finger button on my keyboard.

Anyway, this isn't the ECS Challenger but it's going to be as close as we can make it within our capabilities.

No, we are not charging more to redo the few details I've mentioned above. We already agreed to store the car until spring at no additional charge and this isn't hurting us any.

Alan, thanks for the bump.


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