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Re: Finally more updates!
[Re: cloneguy]
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10/23/09 02:24 PM
10/23/09 02:24 PM
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Hey...Where the rear axle rebound bumpers go....LoL  Just busting your chops ! Looks great, but I have one question... Why is the factory type sealer a orangey/red colour? Wouldn't stone chips stand out more? I can understand the factory using red oxide, but most shops today using tintable primers choose a colour close to the base colour...Don't they?  Also you should have taken two minutes to remove the leftside exhaust hanger bracket and the rear flex hose bracket. Neither one of these items were installed at the factory prior to paint. FYI
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Re: Finally more updates!
[Re: jrwoodjoe]
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10/23/09 03:31 PM
10/23/09 03:31 PM
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Also you should have taken two minutes to remove the leftside exhaust hanger bracket and the rear flex hose bracket. Neither one of these items were installed at the factory prior to paint. FYI
Isn't the rear brake hose bracket welded to the floorpan in 1970? I thought I remember seeing a pic of that in Dave's OE Challenger thread.
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Re: Finally more updates!
[Re: anlauto]
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10/23/09 03:32 PM
10/23/09 03:32 PM
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cloneguy
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Hey...Where the rear axle rebound bumpers go....LoL Just busting your chops !
Looks great, but I have one question...
Why is the factory type sealer a orangey/red colour? Wouldn't stone chips stand out more? I can understand the factory using red oxide, but most shops today using tintable primers choose a colour close to the base colour...Don't they?
Also you should have taken two minutes to remove the leftside exhaust hanger bracket and the rear flex hose bracket. Neither one of these items were installed at the factory prior to paint. FYI
This is the first LA built car that we have restored although we do have another LA built Cuda parts car in inventory.
This is todays catalized version of the red sealer used on LA cars. Actually, the bright lights in the booth and the flash make it look a lot brighter than it really is. Look at the roof for a closer color tone.
I'm a little out of my area of expertise here but we were told that this was the correct color seal to use with the paint to assure that the B7 actually ended up being B7 when we were finished. When compared to our color chart, the B7 is as exact as I can see with the naked eye.
I'm not the painter so it's what I understand that Roger Gibson told Mike to use. I'm pretty sure I have the story right.
Thanks for the heads up on the left exhaust bracket. We missed that since the right one is welded on, as is the flex hose bracket on the customer's car and our parts car. Would they have welded those on after painting? That seems strange.
I have pics of the car cleared inside and out in the sun but not yet buffed. I'll be posting those soon.
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Re: Finally more updates!
[Re: anlauto]
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10/23/09 03:44 PM
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Yep...BRAINFART.....Been working on too many 71-up E Bodies....My appoligies!
Good info on the base colour for B7...I'm restoring a V code 70 Runner that's B7 in the near future 
Also, the paint formula for 1970 B7 is different from 1971 B7.
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Re: Finally more updates!
[Re: cloneguy]
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10/24/09 01:03 PM
10/24/09 01:03 PM
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Looks great Tim!,.......just curious how you guys may have handeled the roof skin/rear qtr transition, or seam, as this is usually a "curse" on E bodies, usually bludgeing on Cuda's and cracking on Challengers, even on "tight" rustfree, structualy sound cars,.....are you guys leading the seams, or using "plastic" media?  Thanks Mike
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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promised.
[Re: cloneguy]
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10/24/09 01:19 PM
10/24/09 01:19 PM
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Georgetown Ontario Canada
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How long will re-assembly take? Roughly how many hours?
You're making it turn key correct?
When will the owner get the car back? and what will the total time frame be?
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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promised.
[Re: anlauto]
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10/24/09 09:01 PM
10/24/09 09:01 PM
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How long will re-assembly take? Roughly how many hours?
You're making it turn key correct?
When will the owner get the car back? and what will the total time frame be?
The reassembly isn't that bad. I do the suspension, tank, brakes, lines, wiring, powertrain, etc. and Mike and Hubert do the body, glass, interior, lights, bumpers, grille, etc.
The customer sent the gauges out and bought new harnesses, so that should be a snap. I've fixed so many original harnesses that I cringe when it's time to troubleshoot them. I often wonder if half of the stuff worked even when it was new.
All in all it will take us about 100 man hours to get it back together. We would have it back to the customer in two to three weeks but the transmission will hold us up about a week. It won't be back from the builder that the customer sent it to until about week three.
The car arrived on August 21 and we budgeted 400 man hours over six months. We're ahead of the delivery date because another car we had scheduled to restore is now not being delivered until mid November.
Turn key running, driving and tuned, yes. But, the customer is doing his own interior reinstallation.
Keep in mind all of the following:
1) We took it apart.
2) We bagged and tagged everything after cleaning it.
3) Everything is like new or restored.
4) We don't charge for head scratching, mistake fixing, paint drying, etc.
Honestly, we'll go about 20 hours over our budget but the customer will not pay more than the price we agreed to upfront.
Finally, if we had one of those steam/pressure washers that some of you other guys have, we would have been right on budget. The undercoating on this car was twice as heavy as I've ever seen and it frankly kicked out butts!
We would have done better if the car had been rusty. We kick butt on panel replacement!
To the guy teasing Alan, I think we're a little too far away to be considered competition but we'll work with anyone from anywhere! 
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I'm thinkin you must have used the fast thinner 
