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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise
[Re: QuickSilver]
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10/14/09 04:13 PM
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Well it is a good thing that you included "quality" of the job your paying these guys to do in there. This much I know, if I had turned over my really nice and solid cuda or whatever the car may be, and saw pictures of a guy standing there with an acetylene torch in one hand heating each and every dent until it was bright red and then quenching it with a wet rag in the other hand I would be horrified and the job would have stopped right then and there. That is not proper body work in my book. Oh yeah and then there's the filing every one of them hard spots down until my once beautiful deck lid is now paper thin. I wasn't very impressed with using the needle scaler for the undercoating removal either. Looks like it pretty much ruined the guys floor pan too. I wish the customer the best of luck since he definitely decided to get a lot of his own parts done right! My two 
I suppose this guy prefers bondo to having dents shrunken back to the state they were in before the metal was stretched.
The file is used as a "slap hammer" the cross hatching in it helps the metal shrink back to the way it was. The metal never raises above the original height. There is no filing or fillers and the metal is no thinner than it was when it was new.
As for the needle scaler, it does nothing to the metal whatsoever, not even a scratch. It's not a jack hammer. When set on low, it removes only the film left behind from the previous undercoat and chemicals.
Yes Mike, this is a tough place to show off what we do. Sometimes I wonder why we try. As long as you are happy, so are we.
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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise
[Re: migsBIG]
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10/14/09 04:22 PM
10/14/09 04:22 PM
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also, I highly recommend Jim Ridge over at Dixie Restorations for alternator restos. His communication and restoration work are second to none. 
That's fine, but since this is cloneguy post and clone guy doing the work, well leave him to posting the outside sources.
I'm eagerly watching this post tim and look forward to seeing this car done and driving. How your pops is doing? better better I hope. Keep up the good work! 
True. The recommendation was made by the owner of the car who is providing nearly all of the coatings we are using.
It's his car and we are using what he wants us to use. We are not tied to any certain brands or processes AND the coatings ARE the best we've ever used. In the future, whenever anyone want this type of restoration, we'll use the same sources.
Finally, thanks to all for the kind thoughts about my Dad. He is finally doing much better and nearly ready to go back home.
A word to the wise. If you are older and something bad happens to your health, don't be in GA. The medical people we worked with at "the best" places around here would have never gotten the job done. They seemed to be dragging everything out to be sure they used up all of his insurance benefits. He is in a good place in FL with my sister and his improvement is staggering.
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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise
[Re: anlauto]
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10/14/09 05:02 PM
10/14/09 05:02 PM
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Tim has already stated that this particular car is going to come in under the $25K max and it seems the owner has done quite a bit of work himself getting the componets done elsewhere, so I can see how it would.
If I were a potential future customer, I would want more detailed info on 1)cost 2)time frame 3)quality/correctness
Are these three things being met?
So far, Yes, Yes and Yes.
1) When we give a quote, we stick to it unless the customer adds something unexpected to the job. We foresee no reason to go over budget on this job.
2) We are actually quite a bit ahead of the original schedule because one of our scheduled jobs was postponed until 11/15. (In my prior life, I ran projects with hundreds to thousands of steps, multiple contingencies and variable critcal paths. Scheduling and managing the two or three cars we typically work on at a time is child's play compared.)
3) The customer viewed the car, in person, prior to the final blocking and sealing stage and authorized us to proceed to paint. So far, so good.
I'll post pictures of all of the details of the work we do. The owner has done all of the coatings procurement but we are applying them to all but the dash and transmission. We are saving all of the original mechanical parts by rebuildng them where possible and the owner has bought correctly restored, dated parts wherever necessary, i.e. exhaust. He sent the gauges, alternator and wiper motor out himself and we'll install them when they come back in.
IMHO the owner is doing everything right by going OE where possible but having us do show quality 21st century slick paint.
This is going to be one sweet ride that any of us would be proud to own. We have documented and will certify that this car is 100% original metal.
When the car leaves us, it will be a tuned and running car capable of leaving under it's own power.
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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise
[Re: 70plymA34]
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10/17/09 06:37 PM
10/17/09 06:37 PM
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This has been a great post to follow. I am looking forward to seeing the final product as well. One question for you; My 6 barrel 'Cuda is an LA car as well and I just took the car off the rotisserie about a month ago after blasting it and priming the undercarriage in the original LA color, which was black/dark gray, not the more common light gray - what color was your car after you stripped of all the undercoating and what color did you go with on the final coating? Here is a photo of mine before blasting and right after cleaning the undercarriage with mineral spirits in order to take some documentation photos. Just curious if your LA car was the same color on the undercarriage? Thanks, Rob
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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise
[Re: FJ6AAR]
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10/17/09 08:41 PM
10/17/09 08:41 PM
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This has been a great post to follow. I am looking forward to seeing the final product as well. One question for you; My 6 barrel 'Cuda is an LA car as well and I just took the car off the rotisserie about a month ago after blasting it and priming the undercarriage in the original LA color, which was black/dark gray, not the more common light gray - what color was your car after you stripped of all the undercoating and what color did you go with on the final coating? Here is a photo of mine before blasting and right after cleaning the undercarriage with mineral spirits in order to take some documentation photos. Just curious if your LA car was the same color on the undercarriage? Thanks, Rob
Rob,
Definitely Dark Gray, just like yours. I'll be posting pictures the first of the week.
This one is getting the OEM overspray treatment but with show quality paint on top so, stay tuned for correct primer/sealer and paint colors.
Hey, the owner of the car we are doing is from LI too. You guys will be the unbeatable duo at your local shows.
Tim
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Re: American Muscle Car Revolution Resto Job as Promise
[Re: cloneguy]
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10/17/09 08:45 PM
10/17/09 08:45 PM
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This has been a great post to follow. I am looking forward to seeing the final product as well. One question for you; My 6 barrel 'Cuda is an LA car as well and I just took the car off the rotisserie about a month ago after blasting it and priming the undercarriage in the original LA color, which was black/dark gray, not the more common light gray - what color was your car after you stripped of all the undercoating and what color did you go with on the final coating? Here is a photo of mine before blasting and right after cleaning the undercarriage with mineral spirits in order to take some documentation photos. Just curious if your LA car was the same color on the undercarriage? Thanks, Rob
Rob,
Definitely Dark Gray, just like yours. I'll be posting pictures the first of the week.
This one is getting the OEM overspray treatment but with show quality paint on top so, stay tuned for correct primer/sealer and paint colors.
Hey, the owner of the car we are doing is from LI too. You guys will be the unbeatable duo at your local shows.
Tim
I'm looking forward to following this thread to the end, especially since I might be able to see the finished product in person. I'll need to contact the owner one of these days. Rob
1970 Hemi 'Cuda hard top clone
1971 Hemi 'Cuda Convertible clone
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interesting very interesting......
