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Re: 440 trucks [Re: dynotune440] #4748 10/17/04 11:54 PM 10/17/04 11:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,244 southeast, mich MachoMan master
MachoMan master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,244 southeast, mich	Quote: I have a question for you guys..... which project should I address next summer? 1978 d150 swb 2wd 440 truck -or- 1977 d150 swb 440 warlock. The 78 is lowered, and will need some attencion to the engine. the 77 is a basket case that will need frame repair and a lot of stuff. Anyhow, any opinions? that's easy. sunroofsunroofsunroofsunroofsunroofsunroofsunroofsunroofsunroofsunroofsunroof Please register your Dodge truck here 1972-1980 Dodge truck registry

Re: 440 trucks [Re: MachoMan] #4749 10/18/04 08:39 AM 10/18/04 08:39 AM
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440custom member 4 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 124 Central ND	Decisions, decisions,... Just my humble opinion but I'd start with the Warlock of course.

Re: 440 trucks [Re: 440custom] #4750 10/18/04 10:44 AM 10/18/04 10:44 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh Fargo Freek super gas
Fargo Freek super gas Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh	Me too But thats only because I have one ... 1218236-barry7.jpeg (95 downloads) I was the Black Warlock but now Iam the Fargo Freek 1950 plymouth fast back (custom) 1951 Fargo spring special 1996 Dodge 1500 Pu 2008 Magnum AWD The way I see it is If It doesn,t say MOPAR then what else is there. E Mail me @ nascar2000@telus.net

Re: 440 trucks [Re: SANDYinNS Canada] #4751 10/18/04 11:46 AM 10/18/04 11:46 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"... dynotune440 master
dynotune440 master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"...	Yeah, the 78 is a sweptline box truck. it is also loaded to the gills with options including adventurer se package, tach, volt/vac, am/fm/cb, a/c, tilt, cruise, skylight roof package, etc. The 77 is also fairly loaded, but nowhere near this 78. I am still gathering parts a little at a time for the 77 anyhow. Thanks for your input. Quote: I'm assuming the 78 is a sweptline? Warlocks are cool but more common at shows....The sweptine (?) is more of a sleeper... I'd pick the easy one first while gathering parts for the warlock. Or you could sell one to finance the resto of the other??? Dinuba, California, Home of the PALOMINO ranch and 440 truck farm, where dodge trucks have a home. Have Four 1979 dodge PALOMINO trucks now.

Re: 440 trucks [Re: dynotune440] #4752 10/19/04 10:35 PM 10/19/04 10:35 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii S smokn440 super street
smokn440 super street S Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii	ok,,I need a guesstimated opinion,,,my motor has seemed to fizzle out to nothing,,,,,,ran beautiful when i tore truck down,,,,,,ran it while i was rebuilding truck,,,,finally drove it for about 50 miles,,,,,,,,now it wont even start,,,,backfiring out of carb when trying to start,,,,,got good spark,,,plenty fuel,,,but major blow-by now,,,and #1 plug around 50 lbs.& #2 plug around 70 lbs. compression,,,thinkin timing gear and chain,,,,any suggestions,,,,

Re: 440 trucks [Re: smokn440] #4753 10/20/04 12:07 AM 10/20/04 12:07 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh Fargo Freek super gas
Fargo Freek super gas Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh	Huh thats what it sounds like to be jumped some teeth there would be no other reason for it to back fire threw the carb . Timing is the problem I was the Black Warlock but now Iam the Fargo Freek 1950 plymouth fast back (custom) 1951 Fargo spring special 1996 Dodge 1500 Pu 2008 Magnum AWD The way I see it is If It doesn,t say MOPAR then what else is there. E Mail me @ nascar2000@telus.net

Re: 440 trucks [Re: smokn440] #4754 10/20/04 01:58 AM 10/20/04 01:58 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"... dynotune440 master
dynotune440 master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"...	here is an easy test, put your crank pulley on TDC, "0 degrees" on the ballancer, and pull off your distributor cap. If the cap and rotor don't point in the same direction(toward #1 cyl), then you probably have a timming gear that went away. How many miles are on it? If it is still the orignal chain and gear, it will be the fiber tooth gear set up. Good luck, and tell us what you find out with it. Dinuba, California, Home of the PALOMINO ranch and 440 truck farm, where dodge trucks have a home. Have Four 1979 dodge PALOMINO trucks now.

Re: 440 trucks [Re: dynotune440] #4755 10/20/04 04:11 AM 10/20/04 04:11 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii S smokn440 super street
smokn440 super street S Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii	90,000,,,,,gonna start tearin into it tomorrow,,hopefully have it back together by saturday,,but would the timing being so off cause the low compression and blow by???

Re: 440 trucks [Re: smokn440] #4756 10/20/04 10:25 AM 10/20/04 10:25 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh Fargo Freek super gas
Fargo Freek super gas Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh	Yes it would because the valves are opening at the wrong time thats why it is blowing back threw the Carb ... thats where half your compression is going.... I was the Black Warlock but now Iam the Fargo Freek 1950 plymouth fast back (custom) 1951 Fargo spring special 1996 Dodge 1500 Pu 2008 Magnum AWD The way I see it is If It doesn,t say MOPAR then what else is there. E Mail me @ nascar2000@telus.net

Re: 440 trucks [Re: Fargo Freek] #4757 10/20/04 12:32 PM 10/20/04 12:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"... dynotune440 master
dynotune440 master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"...	YES, I agree!!! Quote: Yes it would because the valves are opening at the wrong time thats why it is blowing back threw the Carb ... thats where half your compression is going.... Dinuba, California, Home of the PALOMINO ranch and 440 truck farm, where dodge trucks have a home. Have Four 1979 dodge PALOMINO trucks now.

Re: 440 trucks [Re: dynotune440] #4758 10/22/04 02:53 AM 10/22/04 02:53 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii S smokn440 super street
smokn440 super street S Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii	well,theres only about an inch of play in the timing chain,,,,,cant imagine why it wont run

Re: 440 trucks [Re: smokn440] #4759 10/22/04 11:30 AM 10/22/04 11:30 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"... dynotune440 master
dynotune440 master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"...	Joe...... Was the rotor pointing in the right direction when the crank pulley was set to TDC? Quote: well,theres only about an inch of play in the timing chain,,,,,cant imagine why it wont run Dinuba, California, Home of the PALOMINO ranch and 440 truck farm, where dodge trucks have a home. Have Four 1979 dodge PALOMINO trucks now.

Re: 440 trucks [Re: dynotune440] #4760 10/23/04 01:29 AM 10/23/04 01:29 AM
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smokn440 super street S Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii	seems to be 180 out,,,,gonna get back on it tomorrow and straighten everything out and put it all back together

Re: 440 trucks [Re: smokn440] #4761 10/23/04 10:39 AM 10/23/04 10:39 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh Fargo Freek super gas
Fargo Freek super gas Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh	WOW 180 out........ HUH sounds like someone was in there doin some back asswards stuff.... Yup get in there and get that straiten out and go from there....... Hope it all works out for ya ... and it,s not to hard on the pocket book.. I was the Black Warlock but now Iam the Fargo Freek 1950 plymouth fast back (custom) 1951 Fargo spring special 1996 Dodge 1500 Pu 2008 Magnum AWD The way I see it is If It doesn,t say MOPAR then what else is there. E Mail me @ nascar2000@telus.net

Re: 440 trucks [Re: smokn440] #4762 10/23/04 12:23 PM 10/23/04 12:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"... dynotune440 master
dynotune440 master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"...	that doesn't sound right. re-check it Joe before you spend any money on it! the camshaft turns 1/2 of the crankshaft speed. it takes 2 revolutions of the crankshaft to turn the camshaft 1 full turn. it is possible that the crankshaft is not at TDC#1, but rather TDC#6 piston. If this is the case, check to see how close the rotor is pointing towards #6(1 and 6 are companion cylinders). If all looks good there, there might be something wrong with the valve train, like possibly a burned valve(I hope not, but the possibility exhists). Quote: seems to be 180 out,,,,gonna get back on it tomorrow and straighten everything out and put it all back together Dinuba, California, Home of the PALOMINO ranch and 440 truck farm, where dodge trucks have a home. Have Four 1979 dodge PALOMINO trucks now.

Re: 440 trucks [Re: dynotune440] #4763 10/23/04 02:16 PM 10/23/04 02:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii S smokn440 super street
smokn440 super street S Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii	the camshaft sprocket is steel,,,so someone may have changed it at one time,,,,,,when the timing marks are lined up,,the damper mark also lines up tdc,,,,,but the rotor is 180 out

Re: 440 trucks [Re: smokn440] #4764 10/23/04 04:10 PM 10/23/04 04:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"... dynotune440 master
dynotune440 master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,301 CA, Proprietor; The "PALOMINO"...	then it should be pointing towards #6 cyl. I would almost bet money that it might have some valve issues. there is something else you could try, try to plug off your brake booster line and see if that helps, I have seen brake boosters cause lean conditions and damage valves before. not to say that this would fix your blow by, but it could be a possible cause. Another thing to do is hook up a vacuum gauge to your engine and see what kind of reading it has, a normal big block with a stock cam should have arround 19 inches of vacuum, and be steady. if you want to hire a mechanic, I could come out for a set of round trip tickets and lodging....lol. Quote: the camshaft sprocket is steel,,,so someone may have changed it at one time,,,,,,when the timing marks are lined up,,the damper mark also lines up tdc,,,,,but the rotor is 180 out Dinuba, California, Home of the PALOMINO ranch and 440 truck farm, where dodge trucks have a home. Have Four 1979 dodge PALOMINO trucks now.

Re: 440 trucks [Re: dynotune440] #4765 10/23/04 05:53 PM 10/23/04 05:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii S smokn440 super street
smokn440 super street S Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii	now i'm confused,,,,,,,,i thought if everything lined up,,rotor should be at #1,,,but would a burnt valve make the timing chain seem too loose,,,or is that a whole different issue,,,,sorry,,,,my bro-in-law lives here too,,,he's a certified mechanic,,,,he's coming over later today to set me straight,,but your always welcome to come out here

Re: 440 trucks [Re: smokn440] #4766 10/23/04 08:46 PM 10/23/04 08:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh Fargo Freek super gas
Fargo Freek super gas Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 933 Rosedale B.C Canada.. Eh	what it sounds like to me is someone had the distributor out and put it in Backasswards and then moved all the plug wires around. when it is a TDC the rotor should point right to the #1 cylinder . right now it should be pointing at # 6 if it,s out 180. if you want to know if you have burnt valves do a leak down test. start at #1 piston and bring it up to compression stroke and hook a air line to the spark plug hole and put air in then listen to hear a leak . if you hear it from the carb you have a burnt intake valve If it comes from the exhaust it is a exhaust valve that is burnt . do that to each cylinder and you will know if you have any burnt valves hope this helps you out..... I was the Black Warlock but now Iam the Fargo Freek 1950 plymouth fast back (custom) 1951 Fargo spring special 1996 Dodge 1500 Pu 2008 Magnum AWD The way I see it is If It doesn,t say MOPAR then what else is there. E Mail me @ nascar2000@telus.net

Re: 440 trucks [Re: Fargo Freek] #4767 10/24/04 03:33 PM 10/24/04 03:33 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii S smokn440 super street
smokn440 super street S Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 390 Hawaii	sounds like it,,,,,,,but I've owned the truck around 4 years now and I never had distributor out,,,,,and this truck was running solid the whole time,,,,even 2 weeks ago trying to start it,,,,it turned over once and ran,,,shut it down and it never restarted,,,,,could it have been running 180 out????hmmmmmmmmmm,,,I think we did try to time it with a light and couldnt get it dialed in,,,,so,,,,now I've got the camshaft gear mark at the bottom,,,then i pulled it and turned the crank one turn to #1 tdc,,,then i pulled the dist. up and turned it 180 to #1,,,,now everything is lining up,,,,now if my bro-in-law ever shows up with a gear puller,,,I can put it back together

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