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Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: RemCharger] #468569
09/15/09 05:38 PM
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yeah they looked reeeeal custom

Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: coronet1966d] #468570
09/15/09 05:45 PM
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yeah they looked reeeeal custom




Yeah a cheaper alternative would be to have your local machine shop take a look at the crank and he can grind or polish it for you for only a couple hundred bucks, then do new bearings and you'll have a good bottom end. Then you can deglaze the cylinders with your drill mounted hone, throw in a new set of piston rings and go. Would be a lot cheaper than tearing the whole block down and having all the machining done, etc. Once you start doing boring, block shaving, balancing, rods new or recon'd, cam bearings, hot tanking, etc etc etc the $$$ adds up fast.

Another option is PAW has their rebuilt 440 short block and long blocks on sale for a pretty good deal these days, when you consider they handle all the running around on their end.

FWIW cast 440 cranks are said to be good to around 600 horse.

Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #468571
09/16/09 07:31 AM
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yeah they looked reeeeal custom




Yeah a cheaper alternative would be to have your local machine shop take a look at the crank and he can grind or polish it for you for only a couple hundred bucks, then do new bearings and you'll have a good bottom end. Then you can deglaze the cylinders with your drill mounted hone, throw in a new set of piston rings and go. Would be a lot cheaper than tearing the whole block down and having all the machining done, etc. Once you start doing boring, block shaving, balancing, rods new or recon'd, cam bearings, hot tanking, etc etc etc the $$$ adds up fast.

Another option is PAW has their rebuilt 440 short block and long blocks on sale for a pretty good deal these days, when you consider they handle all the running around on their end.

FWIW cast 440 cranks are said to be good to around 600 horse.




or even if you are tearing it down to the bare block to clean it, etc. instead of a drill mounted deglazer, it was only $3 a hole to have the machine shop here hone it on their machine....


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Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: patrick] #468572
09/16/09 09:30 AM
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yeah they looked reeeeal custom




Yeah a cheaper alternative would be to have your local machine shop take a look at the crank and he can grind or polish it for you for only a couple hundred bucks, then do new bearings and you'll have a good bottom end. Then you can deglaze the cylinders with your drill mounted hone, throw in a new set of piston rings and go. Would be a lot cheaper than tearing the whole block down and having all the machining done, etc. Once you start doing boring, block shaving, balancing, rods new or recon'd, cam bearings, hot tanking, etc etc etc the $$$ adds up fast.

Another option is PAW has their rebuilt 440 short block and long blocks on sale for a pretty good deal these days, when you consider they handle all the running around on their end.

FWIW cast 440 cranks are said to be good to around 600 horse.




or even if you are tearing it down to the bare block to clean it, etc. instead of a drill mounted deglazer, it was only $3 a hole to have the machine shop here hone it on their machine....




That's a smoking deal , it's $150 here to just get it honed ...

Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: patrick] #468573
09/16/09 11:00 AM
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yeah thats another grey area for me. where do i take it for quality machine work that wont break the bank?

Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: coronet1966d] #468574
09/16/09 11:52 AM
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Depends on how strong your bank is. Quality is just not found around here (CT) for $3/hole.


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Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: moper] #468575
09/17/09 12:48 AM
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Also, PAW has good deals on their short and long block 440's right now.

Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: coronet1966d] #2581961
11/23/18 04:17 PM
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I've got the same bucket I had when I was a kid terring things up, it's always on the half empty side.

I like the idea of finding a steel crank and good pistons, take your time do the best you can afford and have fun.


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Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: Iowan] #2582017
11/23/18 06:02 PM
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Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: coronet1966d] #2582047
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Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2582085
11/23/18 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
Also, PAW has good deals on their short and long block 440's right now.


I've bought parts from them........in 1988.


Have a great day
Iowan

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Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: coronet1966d] #2582301
11/24/18 12:18 PM
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I believe PAW went under around 2009? Their huge catalog was like the Sears Christmas Wishbook! Paw is an outfit that put the hurt on the brick and mortar speed shops. Speed shop owners blew off "mail order" parts places and this disregard was to their demise. Then around 2000 PAW blows of "Website and internet ordering" and it was to their demise as well. Interesting.


Keep old mopars alive.
Re: Just picked up a 76 440 what pistons for 0 deck? [Re: coronet1966d] #2582556
11/24/18 08:26 PM
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Check out the clearance section of 440source. They may have the heads you seek at a price that fits into your bucket.

BTW, they have a stroker crank and rods in that section for $999.

Thin, .019", head gaskets and closed chamber heads are a better performance investment than taller pistons, in most cases.

What's your elevation? Higher elevation and compression becomes King.

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