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Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: derekeh] #448401
09/19/09 06:32 PM
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Some lifters can still be pumped with oil perhaps, preventing you from pushing them in.
If all lifters are hard to push in, this would also mean intake valves might be held open slightly, and this would/should cause backfires in the carb at times and would also cause hard starting.

What's the voltage at the coil with the IGN 'on'?
Should be at least 8-9 volts. You can by-pass the ballast resistor for a short while so the coil gets the full 12 volts, to see if the engine runs better this way.

Did you try a different ECU? (A non-orange Mopar ECU if possible)

Disconnect the fuel hose from the carb and hold it in a bucket and have someone crank over the engine. A fairly good amount of fuel should squirt out at regular intervals during starting.
If the fuel-squirts are weak you might want to try a different fuelpump first.

Good luck!

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: BigBlockMopar] #448402
09/19/09 11:45 PM
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Its not hard to start and it doesnt backfire through the carb. Ive tried different ECU and it didnt affect it any. ill check the voltage to the coil to see what it is.

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: BigBlockMopar] #448403
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Okay with the ignition on... im showing 4 volts on the + side of the coil. With the car running Im showing about 6. On the ballast resistor I have 12 volts on one side. On the other side I have 6 with the wire hooked up... unhooked im showing 12.

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: derekeh] #448404
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There you go!
Find another ballast resistor with less resistance so more voltage gets to the coil.

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: BigBlockMopar] #448405
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How do I go about finding the right one? I just replaced the ballast resistor thinking it would help my problem and it didnt

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: derekeh] #448406
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How do I go about finding the right one? I just replaced the ballast resistor thinking it would help my problem and it didnt




6 volts seems awfully low. Is this a double or single resistor. I think you should be seeing closer to 9 volts. Measure the resistance with a meter and compare it to a new one. Try using one with a lower resistance.

Hows the coil? Also, it is possible the valves are too tight. Adjustable rockers will allow you to set the pre load properly. Lifters should bleed down once the car sits for awhile.

The proper way to adjust them is to turn the engine in the direction of rotation. Starting with number 1, turn the engine until the exhaust valve just starts to open. Adjust the intake valve by spinning the pushrod between your fingers and tightening the adjuster until you feel it dragging. Turn the adjuster another 1/2-1 full turn. Turn the engine some more until the intake valve is almost closed. Adjust the exhaust valve the same way. Repeat for the other cylinders.

The only way to adjust the non-adjustable rockers is with shims, longer/shorter push rods, or adjustable push rods.

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: torkrules] #448407
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Its a single resistor.

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: derekeh] #448408
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How do I find one with less resistance? I mean what do I tell them at the parts house.

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: derekeh] #448409
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See if you can borrow a coil that doesn't use the resistor, then make a jumper to bypass the resistor. That way you can still go back easily.

You are looking for a coil that can run on all 12 volts.


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Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: derekeh] #448410
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Had this problem before, but we're playing with hotter engines. Anyways check the plug wires( at night to check for a light show) Also did you do anything with the valvesprings ( could be floating the valves)Oh one more thing did you change the ignition at all. Could be a hotter box screwing the plug wires up. Sucks i've been through all these problems.....Remember, friends dont let friends drive Chevy.

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: SomeCarGuy] #448411
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Where can I find a coil that can run at 12 volts? I didnt do anything to the valve springs. I just assumed they would be fine since this is a stock cam and all. And the ignition is all the same stuff that was on the car with my last engine. I bought replacement parts at advance but nothing helped any so I changed everything back one part at a time to see if anything changed then.. still nothing :/

Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: derekeh] #448412
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You should have 9 volts at the coil when the car is running at 13.8v [13.8 volts is the real number not 12]. If you have 6 volts the ballast resistor has too much resistance.

If the compression test is ok it's electrical
Bad control boxes [esp orange boxes]and alternators make engines run bad too
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Re: Help. Cant get engine to stop missing :( [Re: ThermoQuad] #448413
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Well im showing plenty of volts to the ballast.. but out of it im getting usually around 5 to 6... thats with the key on. So how do I find one with less resistance? And I didnt think to check the altenator. It charges the battery fine but it could still be a problem?

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