Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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The rear of my hoses look just like blucudas, plumbed the same way, heres a picture of the front of the hoses. I think going under the intake would put unnecessary heat under the carb.
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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did you fab that part on the waterneck? got a close up pi of that? looks good.
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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please explain the path of coolant and why that lowers engine temperature. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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by not having a dead end,it allows more water to flow into the radiator.
as devils advocate, if the water is flowing back to the radiator, it's not flowing through the head from the rear to the front to cool it.
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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by not having a dead end,it allows more water to flow into the radiator.
as devils advocate, if the water is flowing back to the radiator, it's not flowing through the head from the rear to the front to cool it.
Dan I understand your ? and thought on the coolant flow. However this mod did take 15* off my 416 as well. I have modified both my Indy and Victor W2 in this manner. Jim
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I was accually going to have a cross over from left to right, then have a Y fitting and go to the t stat housing. I know it going to kinda bypass the thermostat, but it keeps the water from "piling up" on itself from dead heading into the intake, and creating a more even flow throughout the engine. Accually after looking at the cool spacer in the above intake, I can make a cross over at the rear of the intake, and "T" it into a single line going to the front of the intake to the t stat, and have a cleaner look, and still have the function of the T stat.
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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by not having a dead end,it allows more water to flow into the radiator.
as devils advocate, if the water is flowing back to the radiator, it's not flowing through the head from the rear to the front to cool it.
Dan I understand your ? and thought on the coolant flow. However this mod did take 15* off my 416 as well. I have modified both my Indy and Victor W2 in this manner. Jim
Well if everything stays the same, lower water temp means higher engine temp and/or oil temp, ie you could just bypass the entire engine and the water temp would drop a whole lot, but that of course is not the goal. Think about it. The only advantage might if the bypass hoses reduce a restriction, but then why does everyone run a thermostat or restrictor then?. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif)
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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I know this mod works, and I do understand water flow, and slowing the water down to "pull" heat out of the block, but the dead stop in the head is what bothers me, You are still utilizing the stat, or gutted stat as a restriction, and its not like we are using a -10 line for the water so its all restricted. Im just wanting to even out the water flow, and stop the dead spot. I really think that a cross over, and a "T" to the stat housing will work great, If not, Ill just do the sweeping lines from rear to front. I know that if water is flowing over itself, and has no place to go its going to want to stay there and get hot. Its like in science class when we made models of rivers, where there was a back drop in the river, the water never moved, and it just sat stagnent, now add head, and its just going to cause hot spots. If you give the water a way to flow, all the water is moving throughout the entire "cycle" and there is no captured water to get hot, its all flowing through the radiator and cooling off.
Just my thought process on the whole reasoning behind this modification.
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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You have to install a soft plug in the deck of the block at the rear most water hole to redirect the flow to make this effective. Your trying to get even cooling of the heads with this mod. Be sure to drill a small hole in the plug to let air escape. There are pictures of this somewhere on here.
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Re: help plumbing "A" engine intake rear water lines...
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You have to install a soft plug in the deck of the block at the rear most water hole to redirect the flow to make this effective.
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can you elaborate on this. I'm not sure what you are saying needs to be done.
If you have a bare block around look at the biggest coolant hole towards the back of the block on each bank. I think it close to 5/8's or so. Go find a soft (freeze type) plug to fit this hole. Drill a small hole to eliminate air pockets and tap it in. Drill the manifold and run lines to the thermostat housing, install the heads and manifold and your set. An Indy intake has the bosses cast and ready to drill. This is a simple mod that will make your heads happy.
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