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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: 2boltmain] #43140 06/11/07 10:11 AM 06/11/07 10:11 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,221 Branson, Mo. J joedust451 super gas
joedust451 super gas J Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,221 Branson, Mo.	Quote: Seems the big block mopar is fine with tunnel rams on the street but big block chevies are very sluggish down low. Bingo, thats why most chevy guys say they don't work, BB mopars have there torque very low in the RPM range, BB chevys don't. New carbs are useally the way to go, i got very lucky with those holleys i bought, but as long as the throttle shafts aren't shot & theres no water damage, you should be fine with just a kit, normally people don't cut up or modify the 600 1850s, DPers are a different story.

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda] #43141 06/11/07 12:10 PM 06/11/07 12:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,021 NY B B1duster master
B1duster master B Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,021 NY	Quote: Dan.... You gotta stop by and say HI at calisle!!! Glad to hear about the progress!!! that made my morning! I will be on the lookout for your car. My brothers car is a 70 petty blue Swinger with black tail stripe and wing, blower scoop and either centerlines or slots. See you there

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: joedust451] #43142 06/11/07 01:15 PM 06/11/07 01:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	If you get an older TR with medium-sized runners, and use two smaller carbs set up for the operation it should be great. The long runners actually build torque at lower engine speeds, there have been published dyno tests proving that the torque is bietter than a regular intake below the torque peak, I think the last one was Car Craft about 3 years ago. But you cannot take the latest TR built for a 600-inch engine and expect the same results. The carbs have to be dialed in, too. The single four-barrel tops have lousy mixture distribution so forget them. 30 years ago I saw a TR on a road race car that had been converted to electronic fuel injection. Ran strong, looked BAD. R.

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: dogdays] #43143 06/11/07 01:26 PM 06/11/07 01:26 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,642 Chicago, Illinois donscuda top fuel
donscuda top fuel Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,642 Chicago, Illinois	My Dad and I used to run a '75 Duster with a 383 and a tunnel ram, had no problems running it on the street, you just had to set the carbs right....we were running a fairly easy gear in it also, a 3.55... we also ran the whole power tour in 2002 from Chicago to Lincoln Nebraska, to Youngstown Ohio and back to Chicago and never had on issue with the car... 3559984-duster1.jpg (252 downloads)

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? #43144 06/11/07 04:29 PM 06/11/07 04:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	Quote: Most of these guy's would never consider driving their cars as drivers. Tunnel rams are okay for racing and looking cool but being practical on street? not! I sure hope that assesment is now defunct!

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda] #43145 06/11/07 06:49 PM 06/11/07 06:49 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: Quote: Most of these guy's would never consider driving their cars as drivers. Tunnel rams are okay for racing and looking cool but being practical on street? not! I sure hope that assesment is now defunct! yup....good memories and lotsa fun running a T-RAM on the street. i think i'll shelve the LD340/TQ combo for now, whip out the credit card and get the WEIAND T-RAM W/ DUEL 450cfm HOLLEYS from summit then go chevy hunting

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? #43146 06/13/07 11:17 AM 06/13/07 11:17 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,387 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,387 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Always love the comments about TR's from people, but I know they run very well. My next question: Which carbs would be best on my 360 with the Weind TR? The 390 or 450 Holleys, or a pair of 500 eddy's, anyone try both? My intention is next year or so going to a mild 340/416 stroker which I am in the process of building, so if I do, will I need bigger carbs, or should I just hold off? Did anyone here run the same carbs on their small block and then go stroker? '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: Dragula] #43147 06/13/07 12:25 PM 06/13/07 12:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	I can tell you one thing... I bought the 450's first - they have a mechanical secondary and no acc pump for the rear venturi... it was an instant BOG when the secondaries opened... could it have been worked out? probably... I went with 390's and they are basically box stock and they work great on my 360.

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda] #43148 06/13/07 12:29 PM 06/13/07 12:29 PM
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1100HPSmallBlock enthusiast Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 374 Mo.	Quote: I can tell you one thing... I bought the 450's first - they have a mechanical secondary and no acc pump for the rear venturi... it was an instant BOG when the secondaries opened... could it have been worked out? probably... I went with 390's and they are basically box stock and they work great on my 360. I second that!

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda] #43149 06/13/07 12:30 PM 06/13/07 12:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,021 NY B B1duster master
B1duster master B Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,021 NY	Quote: I can tell you one thing... I bought the 450's first - they have a mechanical secondary and no acc pump for the rear venturi... it was an instant BOG when the secondaries opened... could it have been worked out? probably... I went with 390's and they are basically box stock and they work great on my 360. !!! I just went through the same exact thing.

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: joedust451] #43150 06/13/07 12:46 PM 06/13/07 12:46 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	383 powered 1923 Ford Roadster w/ 390 holleys on polished Weiand tunnelram. Street use only. Bruce Last edited by 69rrbruce; 06/14/07 07:54 AM.

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? #43151 06/13/07 01:04 PM 06/13/07 01:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,180 Willoughby Hills, Ohio gd9704 super gas
gd9704 super gas Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,180 Willoughby Hills, Ohio	Neat bucket T! It's obvious that tunnel rams CAN be run on the street--But it takes the right setup, the right car and the right person to live with it! Most of us can't or won't, so we slog along with our single 4-barrels on a dual plane intake.... I do respect those of you who do!

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: 1100HPSmallBlock] #43152 06/13/07 03:37 PM 06/13/07 03:37 PM
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Seth_Jones pro stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,551 Marion,Indiana	Would the 450's work any better on a 440?I'm putting together a 10:1 440 with eddy's,Weiand TR,and a.528 mopar solid.I was really considering getting the 450's over 390's just due to price difference.

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: Seth_Jones] #43153 06/13/07 04:17 PM 06/13/07 04:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	be prepared for them not to work out of the box... at least thats what I came acrost... \ would a set of 50CC pumps do tyhe trick? add the price of them up and the cams and the time and the effort.. and a set of 600's would probably work better....IMO...

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda] #43154 06/14/07 02:05 AM 06/14/07 02:05 AM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: I can tell you one thing... I bought the 450's first - they have a mechanical secondary and no acc pump for the rear venturi... it was an instant BOG when the secondaries opened... could it have been worked out? probably... I went with 390's and they are basically box stock and they work great on my 360. i wish i knew that before i ordered.

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? #43155 06/14/07 09:25 AM 06/14/07 09:25 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	as long as there was never gas inthem they will take them back... I know...lol

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: Seth_Jones] #43156 06/14/07 08:11 PM 06/14/07 08:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,221 Branson, Mo. J joedust451 super gas
joedust451 super gas J Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,221 Branson, Mo.	Quote: Would the 450's work any better on a 440?I'm putting together a 10:1 440 with eddy's,Weiand TR,and a.528 mopar solid.I was really considering getting the 450's over 390's just due to price difference. Get ya a pair off 600 1850s

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda] #43157 06/14/07 08:29 PM 06/14/07 08:29 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: as long as there was never gas inthem they will take them back... I know...lol then could i ask for the 390cfm carbs? did you have to pay extra or just pay the shipping? (sorry for going off topic.)

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? #43158 06/15/07 06:21 AM 06/15/07 06:21 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	i bought themover 10 years ago.. i couldent tell you the details..

Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda] #43159 06/15/07 11:08 AM 06/15/07 11:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,585 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,585 md	I have a pair of new 450`s that I used about 3 or 4 months and then replaced them with the 390`s. I did loose a liitle power with the 390`s but the car ran much better. Anyone interested in buying the 450`s at a fair price let me know. I just didn`t have the knowledge to get those carbs to run right. Mike

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