Re: What classifies a "fast" street car??
[Re: CW25]
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08/01/09 02:04 AM
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This has been an ongoing discussion, since I first started hanging out with street car and drag car guys. The only "Fast" "Street" car is the one you own or have owned previously.
Every car that your car can outrun no longer meets the "Fast" requirement.
Every car that is faster does not meet the "Street" requirement. Simply repeat this mantra: "Yeah it's faster, but it's not a true street car because _________.
1. It doesn't have AC. 2. It doesn't have Power Windows. 3. It doesn't have wipers. 4. It doesn't have a fuel guage. 5. It doesn't have leather seats. 6. It doesn't have a back seat. 7. It doesn't have a stereo. 8. It doesn't have DOT legal tires. 9. It has firberglass/no bumpers. 10. It's not California Smog legal. 11. It doesn't weigh over 2 tons. 12. It has tinted windows. 13. It's tubbed. 14. It has non-oem suspension items. 15. It has a spool 16. It has Firecore plug wires 17. It doesn't run on Kerosene. 18. It has headers. 19. It exceeds 80 decibels at 35 feet and 3500 RPM. 20. It has a forward facing hood scoop
This is excuse list 1-20 for 20-2000 scoll down farther.
Extra points for tapping the offending quicker car for more than one violation, the precedent has been set that allows you to use these excuses even if YOUR car suffers from a violation on the list as well!!
My current driver is a 2001 Chrysler Sebring LXI, I've raced it in our local bracket series this year. On a recent pass, a local bracketeer broke his Firebird, and pressed his 1/2 ton tow vehicle into service...he was dialed 2 tenths quicker than I was!
I your car can regularly be outran by everyone's tow vehicles, it's NOT a fast street car....PERIOD!!
"Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks"
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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car??
[Re: MoparBilly]
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08/01/09 06:10 AM
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This has been an ongoing discussion, since I first started hanging out with street car and drag car guys. The only "Fast" "Street" car is the one you own or have owned previously.
Every car that your car can outrun no longer meets the "Fast" requirement.
Every car that is faster does not meet the "Street" requirement. Simply repeat this mantra: "Yeah it's faster, but it's not a true street car because _________.
1. It doesn't have AC. 2. It doesn't have Power Windows. 3. It doesn't have wipers. 4. It doesn't have a fuel guage. 5. It doesn't have leather seats. 6. It doesn't have a back seat. 7. It doesn't have a stereo. 8. It doesn't have DOT legal tires. 9. It has firberglass/no bumpers. 10. It's not California Smog legal. 11. It doesn't weigh over 2 tons. 12. It has tinted windows. 13. It's tubbed. 14. It has non-oem suspension items. 15. It has a spool 16. It has Firecore plug wires 17. It doesn't run on Kerosene. 18. It has headers. 19. It exceeds 80 decibels at 35 feet and 3500 RPM. 20. It has a forward facing hood scoop
This is excuse list 1-20 for 20-2000 scoll down farther.
Extra points for tapping the offending quicker car for more than one violation, the precedent has been set that allows you to use these excuses even if YOUR car suffers from a violation on the list as well!!
My current driver is a 2001 Chrysler Sebring LXI, I've raced it in our local bracket series this year. On a recent pass, a local bracketeer broke his Firebird, and pressed his 1/2 ton tow vehicle into service...he was dialed 2 tenths quicker than I was!
I your car can regularly be outran by everyone's tow vehicles, it's NOT a fast street car....PERIOD!!
Billy..
My Barracuda is good for #5 and #12
So How'd I do?
That's some funny sh!t right there..
Chris...
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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car??
[Re: blownEFI]
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08/01/09 01:38 PM
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The term "street car" has become meaningless. There is no authoritative definition and pretty much any car can be claimed to be a street car. The term has become an excuse for those people who feel the need to justify why their car isn't the fastest one on the block. Because car-A is slower than car-B the owner of car-A explains that his is a "street car" and therefore should not be expected to be as fast as car-B. This reasoning fails because the owner of car-B invariably claims that his is also a street car and that the owner of car-A is just jealous. At the end of the day only one fact is known to be true.... car-A is slower than car-B !!!
There is no point in excusing the performance of your car by claiming it's a street car. Likewise, there is no point in denigrating the performance of someone else's car by claiming it's not a street car, as a way of apologizing for why your car is not as fast. Simply accept that your car is not as fast and that the other guy made compromises that you weren't willing to.
Why even waste your breath claiming what should be an obvious assumption.... so your car is a street car, well so is mine and so is his and so is hers.... they're all street cars and you can't prove otherwise.... so what? It's all opinion and everyone has one of those too.
This reply is not directed at anyone or any car in particular; it is simply my opinion regarding the term "street car".
blownEFI for president! Very well said.
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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car??
[Re: MoparBilly]
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08/01/09 01:47 PM
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This has been an ongoing discussion, since I first started hanging out with street car and drag car guys. The only "Fast" "Street" car is the one you own or have owned previously.
Every car that your car can outrun no longer meets the "Fast" requirement.
Every car that is faster does not meet the "Street" requirement. Simply repeat this mantra: "Yeah it's faster, but it's not a true street car because _________.
1. It doesn't have AC. 2. It doesn't have Power Windows. 3. It doesn't have wipers. 4. It doesn't have a fuel guage. 5. It doesn't have leather seats. 6. It doesn't have a back seat. 7. It doesn't have a stereo. 8. It doesn't have DOT legal tires. 9. It has firberglass/no bumpers. 10. It's not California Smog legal. 11. It doesn't weigh over 2 tons. 12. It has tinted windows. 13. It's tubbed. 14. It has non-oem suspension items. 15. It has a spool 16. It has Firecore plug wires 17. It doesn't run on Kerosene. 18. It has headers. 19. It exceeds 80 decibels at 35 feet and 3500 RPM. 20. It has a forward facing hood scoop
This is excuse list 1-20 for 20-2000 scoll down farther.
Extra points for tapping the offending quicker car for more than one violation, the precedent has been set that allows you to use these excuses even if YOUR car suffers from a violation on the list as well!!
My current driver is a 2001 Chrysler Sebring LXI, I've raced it in our local bracket series this year. On a recent pass, a local bracketeer broke his Firebird, and pressed his 1/2 ton tow vehicle into service...he was dialed 2 tenths quicker than I was!
I your car can regularly be outran by everyone's tow vehicles, it's NOT a fast street car....PERIOD!!
There ALWAYS has to be a on every topic ...
I think that most will agree that it has to be street-legal ..... nothing that could get you a ticket from an "aggressive" officer .. like too-tall scoops, loud exhaust, non-dot tires.
Now for someone to suggest that a car that does not qualify as a street-car because of the lack of AC, tinted windows and/or leather seats .....
GO take your MEDS !
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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car??
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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08/01/09 05:59 PM
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I think you would definitely have to be running pump gas. Are there any "street" cars out there who are HONESTLY running 91 pump gas and clicking off 9 or 10 second ET's?
I havent seen any gas stations within several states of where I live sell anything better than 91 premium.
These days, 9 or 10 sec pump gas cars are easy. Just a mediocre motor with a turbo, a little nitrous, or a pro-charger, will easily get it done. The same things that work on race gas to make power, work with pump gas as well. You just can't run as much timing. The year we won the Pump Gas Drags with Hogans Chevy II, it had the same nitrous tune we ran on race gas, just a lot less timing. Went a best of 8.15 on pump gas and radials.
Monte
I would like to see somebody run 8's on just 91 pump swill.
I highly doubt that 5 to 9 lbs of boost with a procharger would get you anywhere near a 9 second time slip. If it were so easy as to just slap on a turbo or supercharger and run 9's then everbody would have a 9 second bruiser.
Or you simply have 600 cu inch or more.
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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car??
[Re: Blakcharger440]
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08/01/09 05:59 PM
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I think you would definitely have to be running pump gas. Are there any "street" cars out there who are HONESTLY running 91 pump gas and clicking off 9 or 10 second ET's?
I havent seen any gas stations within several states of where I live sell anything better than 91 premium.
All our stations have 93 octane premium. That's all I ever put in my car and it's been 9.50s, ON MOTOR. CHIP
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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