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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: 528bbduster] #422713
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Back in the mid 1970's I had a Factory 64 Max Wedge Car, auto, 4.30's Aluminum front end.

I drove it daily to school and work (Centerline Wheels )
Drove it to OCIR and went consistent 11 teens. No aftermarket accessories. It even had the stock distributor, and fuel pump.
Well over 30 years ago, that was fast. And factory original.... So if the factory says it's a legal street car, how can you argue that?

Wish I still had that one..


Chris...

Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #422714
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Well over 30 years ago, that was fast. And factory original.... So if the factory says it's a legal street car, how can you argue that?

Wish I still had that one..


Chris...




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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: blownEFI] #422715
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My car went 12:50s on radials and I drove it college during the week and most of the racetracks in Az during the weekend. Was it fast,kind of , but it was a street car because it had to be.

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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: sixpackgut] #422716
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Whatever you can tolerate to drive, is a "street" car. Some may not like it, or him, but Eddie drives that Duster 1,000 miles during Drag Week, beats on it at the track, it goes 7s. Anything you can drive 1,000 miles, is definitely a Street Car. You could not positively gaurantee your everyday driver would go a 1,000 miles without incident, so that is not a legit argument. My GTX was a low 8 sec car and saw plenty of street duty. Some claim a streeter must have air, ps, pb and a bunch of other stuff, my Challenger had none of that when new, so why does it need it now to be considered a street car.

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Monte, you forgot about the nightly rebuilds it took to keep Eddie's junk running.


I knew someone would bring that up. That turned out to be a cooling issue that let the motor run hot, thin the oil and basically beat the lifters out of it. Look, I am not the biggest Eddie fan, nor am I defending him, but his junk is fast and streetable. I don't expect the cooling issues this year, that he had last year. Eddie aside, what about the guy that won it, Larry Larson. He rarely had the hood up, never changed tires and has since ran in the low 7s and will probably run 6s with a killer tune.

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Elvis car 1500 miles in pouring down rain in 06 and ran low 8s not a single problem.






was this with the indy 440-1 heads ?


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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: Ari440] #422717
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Whatever you can tolerate to drive, is a "street" car. Some may not like it, or him, but Eddie drives that Duster 1,000 miles during Drag Week, beats on it at the track, it goes 7s. Anything you can drive 1,000 miles, is definitely a Street Car. You could not positively gaurantee your everyday driver would go a 1,000 miles without incident, so that is not a legit argument. My GTX was a low 8 sec car and saw plenty of street duty. Some claim a streeter must have air, ps, pb and a bunch of other stuff, my Challenger had none of that when new, so why does it need it now to be considered a street car.

Monte




Monte, you forgot about the nightly rebuilds it took to keep Eddie's junk running.


I knew someone would bring that up. That turned out to be a cooling issue that let the motor run hot, thin the oil and basically beat the lifters out of it. Look, I am not the biggest Eddie fan, nor am I defending him, but his junk is fast and streetable. I don't expect the cooling issues this year, that he had last year. Eddie aside, what about the guy that won it, Larry Larson. He rarely had the hood up, never changed tires and has since ran in the low 7s and will probably run 6s with a killer tune.

Monte




Elvis car 1500 miles in pouring down rain in 06 and ran low 8s not a single problem.






was this with the indy 440-1 heads ?




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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: Ari440] #422718
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Thats funny That was with the Predators IIRC.Like him or hate him he walked the walk.Id say a car that you have that runs 3 seconds quicker in the qtr than when it was new is a fast street car.If I can get my 04 Stratus to run 13s rather than 16s thats pretty good and would surprise some people.Its all open to interpretation.

Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: ksj] #422719
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He had more success with the b-1s than the predators.

Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: Moparnut426] #422720
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09 six speed challenger went 13.30 at 105.5. Totaly stock. That's pretty fast for a no-power adder production vehicle. Souped up old car I have a 4200# 79 Chrysler "300" that has a 408 junkyard headed sm block that has gone 11.60 at 115mph. Full exh. 4 mufflers and M/T Street ETs. 12.18 at 115 on BFG Radial TAs. Motor has near 15000 street miles on it.


Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: ksj] #422721
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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: ksj] #422722
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To me, a street car is one that you can get in, anytime, and drive "As Is" anywhere in the country you want on pump gas.
"Fast" is a relative term, My car ran mid-high 11's in full street trim/tires and like Defbob, I referred to it as "Quick". Fast to me is in the tens on engine, but maybe if mine ran tens, I would think fast is nines!
For want of a better term, the description "Street/Strip" probably is more accurate for many of the Street cars that have big gears, loose converters, drag radials and other things that keep you from jumping in and taking a cross country trip, But, that is just my opinion! Lee.

Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: Lee446] #422723
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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: Ari440] #422724
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-1 motor was a 526, 12-1, his cams are always "creative"

the pred engine is a 570something maybe. 12-1. his new combo needs a converter. the new combo blows right thru the converter. doesnt go much faster with 2 stages than just 1. he has done some testing and has hit new bests with just one stage but they were only 1/8th mile passes


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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: Moparnut426] #422726
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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: blownEFI] #422727
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... Because car-A is slower than car-B the owner of car-A explains that his is a "street car" and therefore should not be expected to be as fast as car-B. This reasoning fails because the owner of car-B invariably claims that his is also a street car and that the owner of car-A is just jealous. At the end of the day only one fact is known to be true.... car-A is slower than car-B !!!



And the worst part is now I can't figure out if my car is Car A or Car B? /

Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: Adobedude] #422728
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I carry 2 car baby seats for my 2 yr old and 6 month old boys, diapers, apple juice, rattles, toys, and milk in my car. Oh ya.. My wife too. We don’t drive to far, maybe 50 miles at a pop. Otherwise I’d go crazy from the screaming and crying. Does that mean I have a family cruiser?

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What is a street car, Hummm If you drive it somewhere and are afraid to park it and leave it for a while its not a street car, like at the movies if ya gota go out and check it every 10 min or...... your just paranoid



What does that have to do with streetability? The question wasn't asking about parking lotability!


Well Dave, how many times did you leave your duster alone in a parking lot for a few hrs?



Well Craig, way too many times to remember.


Ok Dave you win, the duster is a street car and I must be paranoid, I wouldn't let that pup out of my sight for 5 min Is lotability a word?

Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: emarine01] #422730
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My street car definition is:
-Fuel can be bought from any gas station
-Working lights, wipers, DOT tires etc
-all the stuff needed in a race fit in to the trunk

And for a fast one, 7's sure would be nice. At least for now.

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Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: jyrki] #422731
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To me, it's any street legal car that's faster than mine.

Re: What classifies a "fast" street car?? [Re: BradH] #422732
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... Because car-A is slower than car-B the owner of car-A explains that his is a "street car" and therefore should not be expected to be as fast as car-B. This reasoning fails because the owner of car-B invariably claims that his is also a street car and that the owner of car-A is just jealous. At the end of the day only one fact is known to be true.... car-A is slower than car-B !!!



And the worst part is now I can't figure out if my car is Car A or Car B? /




trust me, you have a B car


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